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You advocating for a Congolese system is so out of whack with reality its absurd. No country except the poorest countries in the world has such a system where the local witch doctor is paid out of pocket by consumers.
im not, but here you are suggesting doctors will suddenly forget their knowledge if the govt doesnt run things.
Ive already shown you that licensure doesn't eliminate quacks and incompetence.
Consumers do a pretty good job of regulating TV's, computers, cell phones, etc. or do you deny the falling prices, ample supply and improvements in technology brought about by healthy competition? The market for medicine should be the same.
Both parties should work together on all issues. Both parties should get together and side with my position on any given issue, which is essentially what you are saying. You're saying both sides should get together and enact the left's solutions. Well I say they should both get together and enact the right's solutions, or maybe the libertarians. So now what?
I am saying one should die because they don't have insurance or go bankrupt because they get sick. Period. Do you disagree?
If so, you don't have to look far to find my reply. You use it every time you post.
im not, but here you are suggesting doctors will suddenly forget their knowledge if the govt doesnt run things.
Ive already shown you that licensure doesn't eliminate quacks and incompetence.
Consumers do a pretty good job of regulating TV's, computers, cell phones, etc. or do you deny the falling prices, ample supply and improvements in technology brought about by healthy competition? The market for medicine should be the same.
Medicine is not the same as buying a TV. Your life is not on the line if you make a wrong TV decision. You are advocating that medical providers should have the full freedom to do whatever they want in a free market system and exploit desperate, vulnerable and sick people. The difference in power between patient and provider is immense. No one has said that regulations completely eliminates quacks but it sure helps that we dont have a system like in the Congo with no regulations and people pay the local witch doctor in order to survive cancer.
Temerity is the wrong word. There are genuine ideological and economic objections to universal healthcare at play here, whether you agree with them or not. It's not that we all agree on the issue but some just don't have the stones to do it.
Its really corruption at the end of the day. "ideological and economic objections" is just sugar coating the fact that a small elite benefit enormously from the current system. Paul Ryan was open about this; if the employers no longer had the employees in a chain through the employer based insurance system, we would risk getting more disobedient workers who were less afraid of losing their job or striking out on their own.
Its really corruption at the end of the day. "ideological and economic objections" is just sugar coating the fact that a small elite benefit enormously from the current system. Paul Ryan was open about this; if the employers no longer had the employees in a chain through the employer based insurance system, we would risk getting more disobedient workers who were less afraid of losing their job or striking out on their own.
It is much easier to start and run a business in countries with universal healthcare since the business owner is off the hook for employee health insurance. Its a shame American conservatives are to stubborn to see that the US is not the best country for everything.
I am saying one should die because they don't have insurance or go bankrupt because they get sick. Period. Do you disagree?
If so, you don't have to look far to find my reply. You use it every time you post.
I'm over being nice about this.
You're saying sides should just get together and agree with the left. I bet leftists feel that way about every issue, and people on the right probably wish both sides could come together on their side as well. It's why there are different sides, because we don't all agree.
You're saying sides should just get together and agree with the left. I bet leftists feel that way about every issue, and people on the right probably wish both sides could come together on their side as well. It's why there are different sides, because we don't all agree.
Universal healthcare is supported by the majority of the developed world because it works better. Why do you want to keep the backwards American system?
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Medicine is not the same as buying a TV. Your life is not on the line if you make a wrong TV decision. You are advocating that medical providers should have the full freedom to do whatever they want in a free market system and exploit desperate, vulnerable and sick people. The difference in power between patient and provider is immense. No one has said that regulations completely eliminates quacks but it sure helps that we dont have a system like in the Congo with no regulations and people pay the local witch doctor in order to survive cancer.
Well neither do television manufacturers have the ability to sell TV's that don't turn on, or have no sound or no display.Are you saying you would purchase one and just accept it? Im arguing that in a free market absent gov protectionism, if the product you purchase is faulty, be it Tv's or medicine, you'll be called out for it, sued, run out of town, put out of business, etc.
as for emergency care, If we eliminate certificate of need and the myriad of other crony favoring restrictions the market could provide more venues for energency care and thus falling prices. Its an economic fact, that when supply increases, prices fall. Its almost like some of you are arguing against the existence gravity (and you're supposedly the believers in science )
We have a system now where the sick are silently killed off, silenced, or made sicker by well intentioned bureaucrats who are "just following the rules" and guv run or insurance co run it matters not. Oddly you are arguing for what we have now, but worsened by total govt control.
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