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Old 09-07-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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That's the title of this thread. That's the point of this entire thread. Why comment if these are not issues of interest?
To tell you they're not the big issue of interests that some on the left want to make them out to be.
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Considering the main plaintiff changed HER mind about abortion and that it was the WORSE decision he had made in he life and if has second chance would NEVER do it again. Yes.


Same sex marriage. Yes. The human being is the ONLY animal who has sex with the same sex.


That should tell you something.
That this is not a fact should tell you that you should do more research
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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Or how many would be lost... women aren't going to just quit having abortions. They had them in back alleys and at home pre-Roe v Wade.

"They had them in back alleys"


Probably the SAME PLACE they had sex!
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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And I think that's what will happen. Kavanaugh will be the deciding vote to kick abortion back to the states. And states like mine, which have already made abortion legal regardless of Roe V. Wade, will not be affected.

Many red states have laws on the books that say as soon as the option to make abortion illegal is available, it will be. This will result in a lot of poverty stricken mothers being forced to have babies they cannot support. This will also result in a lot of companies being less inclined to want to expand in such states.

If red states think this will be good for their economies, they better hope they can open a lot of Hobby Lobby's and Chick-fil-As. Tech companies will flee that kind of backward thinking and so will a lot of others. Those states better count on coal and fracking which will be Darwinian and self-solving.




Sorry, but other than actual cases of rape, no one is forcing women to get pregnant.

Birth control is pretty cheap and pretty reliable.

Not having vaginal intercourse if you can't afford kids is free.
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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I am really concerned that our country is going in the wrong direction. Can you imagine how many lives will be destroyed if such things were to be overturned?
What is the right direction ... ?
Paper written in 1986:
Role of abortion in control of global population growth.
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Thus, abortion is necessary but not sufficient to cause low growth rates. With the exception of a few countries with aging populations and very high contraceptive prevalence rates, developed countries need to maintain abortion rates in the range of 201-500/1000 if they are to maintain growth rates at levels below 1%. An even greater reliance on abortion--over 500/1000 live births--is required in developing countries to reduce population growth.
Paper written 2009
Declining birth rate in Developed Countries: A radical policy re-think is required
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Although recent data show that birth rates in the UK have increased (Office of National Statistics, 2009), this is predominantly due to immigration so there are still serious concerns about long term replacement. There are two potential means of addressing the problem of providing a young productive workforce able to generate income to provide the social care for the old and infirm. The first is to find ways of increasing the birth rate; this is essentially a long term solution but one which should provide more steady and predictable results. The second is to encourage immigration of a predominantly young and skilled workforce; this may provide an instant answer to the problem but is likely to be short-term unless the immigrants decide to stay in large numbers. In the long term it is doubtful whether reliance should be placed on immigration to solve an intrinsic societal problem in developed nations, namely a falling birth rate.
Economically now that we have reached the baby boomers population dying off and our replacement levels are less than is needed, our government has some decisions to make.
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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Sorry, but other than actual cases of rape, no one is forcing women to get pregnant.

Birth control is pretty cheap and pretty reliable.

Not having vaginal intercourse if you can't afford kids is free.
So don't answer me, answer the thread. It sounds like that is a yes in favor of overturning Roe V. Wade.

Make no mistake, the result will be an increase in poverty stricken mothers because those with money will simply travel to a state where it's been made legal.
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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That this is not a fact should tell you that you should do more research
as should you ...
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Old 09-07-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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I am really concerned that our country is going in the wrong direction. Can you imagine how many lives will be destroyed if such things were to be overturned?
That's very interesting that you phrased it: "...imagine how many lives will be destroyed."

When I speak of Roe being overturned, I speak in terms of women literally dying from coat hanger abortions. But you're right: Many more lives would be metaphorically destroyed, with unwanted children being abused or without adequate care, and parents' lives derailed.
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Old 09-07-2018, 05:06 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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The u.s. isn't the only country re-thinking their abortion practice and laws ...
Birth Control in Russia
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For 50 years, Russian women relied on state-financed abortions as their main form of birth control.
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More troubling is the widespread suspicion that this decree is another attempt at Soviet-style population manipulation.
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Russia today is facing a real population crisis as young people emigrate, those who stay have fewer children and the life expectancy of men is falling. Russia's population, now 145 million, is shrinking by almost 700,000 annually -- a predicament that President Vladimir Putin has called a ''creeping catastrophe.''
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Old 09-07-2018, 05:08 PM
 
Location: The 719
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I am really concerned that our country is going in the wrong direction. Can you imagine how many lives will be destroyed if such things were to be overturned?
I could care less.
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