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Originally Posted by cityguy212
I wanted to see how this match played out, without "highchair" intervention. The best chair umpires strive to be invisible. We didn't even have a good chair umpiring effort on Saturday.
You saw the match playing out just fine without the umpire. First set, Osaka, 6-2. You saw it again on Osaka's break back on 4 straight points, 2 of which she made Serena look totally outmatched, and then Serena broke her racket, started the next game off down a point, and the rest is history.
The umpire did his job absolutely, 100% within the rules of tennis and grand slam events. She was beaten by a superior opponent, robbed of her record, and she melted down. End of story.
The recent juvennile behaviour of players such as Krygios, Tomic, Medvedev etc has led Wimbledon to seriously consider implimenting changes in relation to the first round. As it stands players who get to the first round autmatically get paid £35,000 ($45,000) if they lose, which meant lots of players were just there to collect the money and were otherwise not really interested.
There have been fines and bans imposed for idiotic behaviour by male players and most of these players are never going to win much, although you don't have to win in tennis to make a good living which is part of the problem and these type of players take advantage of the genorosity of tournaments in relation to those knocked out at the early stages.
Yes, there is pretty much always controversy around some male players, but, and it is a huge "but" they are welcomed (back) into tournaments over and over and over again and, despite a sponsor loss here or there, are still well-compensated overall.
And, despite one or two occurrences - like the final where Dimitrov melted down vs. Schwartzman and was defaulted - they are rarely penalized ON court.
Andy Murray could be penalized and fined for language every.single.time he plays a match.
But he isn't.
This entire incident goes deeper than a rule violation. Serena is realizing she is in the TWILIGHT of her career. She is used to winning, being at, or near the top of the sport, and the accolades, and attention that comes from that. Now, she is coming to the understanding it will not last much longer, and is now wondering what she is going to do to keep that level of attention, and adoration she now not only craves, but REQUIRES.
What does a diva, albeit a large one, in a Tu Tu do once her career is over, which it will be pretty soon.
A little bit more extreme than claiming the chair umpire stole a point in the US Open final don't you think?
Are many of you blokes sexist?
Right, your country gave us Lleyton Hewitt and Nick Kyrgios. The chair umpire practically gave Nick a BJ to try and calm him down. Such equal treatment....
It may have been more extreme, which is why the whole match was abandon on the third violation , and not one game, it's simple really.
However the poster I was referring to seems to imply Macnroe always got away with it, which he did not.
Do all you guys hate the Japanese?
Kyrgios is a complete jerk.
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Seems like losing first set in US Open finals, and then having anything not go her way in the second set launches her into these tirades at chair umpires and line judges. And she always blames something other than her own actions. In 2009, she swears she never said anything to the line judge, even though there is clear video evidence of every single word of the threat she issued to the judge, and then when she can't escape the video, she retreats to "men say worse stuff all the time" excuse. In 2011, the judge is a hater and better not walk down the same hallway as her. Once more, she claims men do it all the time, everyone hates her because black, because woman, because something not her fault. And now here we are, and her coach gets busted for violating rules, she smashes a racket and now it's more of the same "not my fault, feminism, motherhood, black, something, not fair, etc.
Only reliable pattern? US Open final, lost first set soundly, melted down at some point in second set.
Seems like losing first set in US Open finals, and then having anything not go her way in the second set launches her into these tirades at chair umpires and line judges. And she always blames something other than her own actions. In 2009, she swears she never said anything to the line judge, even though there is clear video evidence of every single word of the threat she issued to the judge, and then when she can't escape the video, she retreats to "men say worse stuff all the time" excuse. In 2011, the judge is a hater and better not walk down the same hallway as her. Once more, she claims men do it all the time, everyone hates her because black, because woman, because something not her fault. And now here we are, and her coach gets busted for violating rules, she smashes a racket and now it's more of the same "not my fault, feminism, motherhood, black, something, not fair, etc.
Only reliable pattern? US Open final, lost first set soundly, melted down at some point in second set.
Diagnosis - sore loser.
Wonder if she's the type to take the job home with her. I feel sorry for her husband if she is.
Seems like losing first set in US Open finals, and then having anything not go her way in the second set launches her into these tirades at chair umpires and line judges. And she always blames something other than her own actions. In 2009, she swears she never said anything to the line judge, even though there is clear video evidence of every single word of the threat she issued to the judge, and then when she can't escape the video, she retreats to "men say worse stuff all the time" excuse. In 2011, the judge is a hater and better not walk down the same hallway as her. Once more, she claims men do it all the time, everyone hates her because black, because woman, because something not her fault. And now here we are, and her coach gets busted for violating rules, she smashes a racket and now it's more of the same "not my fault, feminism, motherhood, black, something, not fair, etc.
Only reliable pattern? US Open final, lost first set soundly, melted down at some point in second set.
Diagnosis - sore loser.
And McEnroe was a notorious d-bag every single match. Bet you looked the other way with him, right? Maybe you even supported his consistently juvenile outbursts.
Sad that this young woman can't win in grace. She has to go through life knowing that she won a match that upset entitled Americans. Now, Serena is making this finals about her.
I feel so bad for this angry sexist's family members and friends and tennis fans across the globe.
I'm ashamed to be an American right now and want to hide from any pride I put into her prior accomplishments.
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Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian
Straw man, and wildly unsupported lie.
Where have I ever supported McEnroe? In fact, McEnroe got an entire match defaulted to his opponent for similar nonsense as this crap with Serena. 1990 Australian Open 4th round. Go watch the video. He gets a warning for staring down a line judge, loses a point to smashed racket, then goes on to argue with the umpire and after verbal abuse, defaults the match. Good for the umpire, McEnroe acted like an idiot and was bounced, as he should have been.
In 1995 at Wimbledon, Jeff Tarango said "oh, shut up" to the stands because someone was heckling him, and he got a violation for obscenity, and then he launched into the same "you can't do that" nonsense Serena did, got another penalty and lost the match. Good for the umpire, Tarango acted like an idiot and was bounced, as he should have been.
Happened to Andy Roddick (bounced from the match), Andre Agassi (calmed down after he was penalized a point), McEnroe several more times, etc. Nothing happened to Serena that hasn't happened to men doing the exact same stuff, or even less (in the case of Tarango saying shut up). And like all of them, she is claiming innocent victim status instead of owning her own behavior.
This.
I thought John McEnroe was a loud-mouthed A hole who was a scab to the sport.
His way did not work especially in the end.
Coach Bob Knight, same thing.
What did Pete Rose do for baseball?
Did the respective leagues look the other way because these guys were white males?
Oh no! Narrative crashing into the ditch!
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Originally Posted by elan
Serena will never be as bad as McEnroe though, man that guy could throw fits.
Oh yeah.
Except for that one time recently when Serena told the judge that she was gonna cram the ball down her throat.
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Originally Posted by Delahanty
LOL Her opponent can make that claim, too.
Frankly, I suspect she's going to amp up the childish tantrums, even more pathetic for a woman approaching 40, as she continues to try to break certain records.
And yes, that includes cheating, which she did do, as her coach admitted that he sent her signals off-court. Tsk tsk.
Oh no! So Serena is a cheater, and also thusly a liar! Which is what started all of this in the first place!
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Originally Posted by bootedNewbieWhoJustTriedDissingMe
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Originally Posted by MPowering1
Um, are you 12? My *profile* is empty. And I'm a Democrat.
Not nearly left enough.
Props to your comment back to the 12 year old talking about judges sitting in high-chairs.
Serena, what a poor sport just because she was getting her ass kicked!
Boo hoo!
Why don't she just cry her little eyes out, get it out of her system, then shake the hand of her opponent and then shut the hell up?
And McEnroe was a notorious d-bag every single match. Bet you looked the other way with him, right? Maybe you even supported his consistently juvenile outbursts.
Straw man, and wildly unsupported lie.
Where have I ever supported McEnroe? In fact, McEnroe got an entire match defaulted to his opponent for similar nonsense as this crap with Serena. 1990 Australian Open 4th round. Go watch the video. He gets a warning for staring down a line judge, loses a point to smashed racket, then goes on to argue with the umpire and after verbal abuse, defaults the match. Good for the umpire, McEnroe acted like an idiot and was bounced, as he should have been.
In 1995 at Wimbledon, Jeff Tarango said "oh, shut up" to the stands because someone was heckling him, and he got a violation for obscenity, and then he launched into the same "you can't do that" nonsense Serena did, got another penalty and lost the match. Good for the umpire, Tarango acted like an idiot and was bounced, as he should have been.
Happened to Andy Roddick (bounced from the match), Andre Agassi (calmed down after he was penalized a point), McEnroe several more times, etc. Nothing happened to Serena that hasn't happened to men doing the exact same stuff, or even less (in the case of Tarango saying shut up). And like all of them, she is claiming innocent victim status instead of owning her own behavior.
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