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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 14 6.25%
58-60 7 3.13%
55-57 13 5.80%
50-54 144 64.29%
49 or less 46 20.54%
Voters: 224. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-05-2018, 12:49 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Not my party. An individual. You seem to now be claiming a grand conspiracy theory by the democrats.

YOU show me the evidence where the democratic party conspired to do this. YOU CANT!.


Thew telling partisanship was when Kananaugh claimed the Clintions were behind this. That speaks volumes.

Try washing that stink off.
You mean Feinstein sitting on an allegation isn't proof? The Democrat party jumping on the band wagon of calling Kavanaugh a rapist isn't a hint?
What Democrat came out neutral?

The telling partisanship was when the dems were all over him for a rape accusation that had no evidence and the accusers own choice of witnesses denied it. How many Dems have come out and apologized? Feinstein? Schumer? Waters? Pelosi?
Yeah none.
If they attacked Kavanaugh for his record. For his alleged biased. Great that is fine, but they didn't did they. They used an alleged rape and no man wants to be accused of rape.

You say not your party but you sure do defend them.

 
Old 10-05-2018, 12:50 AM
 
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It is also what you believe. If you that think that he was ralph king because of a sensitive tummy that is on you.
I believe it because I had a sensitive tummy and tended to get sick when drinking. It’s why I’ve never been a big drinker. I did have one friend in high school that was a big drinker and a big barter. He’d get really drunk, then throw up and start drinking some more. I never really understood why he’d want to do that, but he did and was well known (and well teased) for it.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Uhmmm what SCOTUS isn't partisan? Are you saying Ruth Ginsburg is unbiased? Are any of them?
Is he biased? Well who the hell wouldn't be after this witch hunt?
Other justices didnt accuse "the opposition party" of making a political hit on them. He is citing a red meat unfounded conspiracy theory. Why let anyone who believes an unfounded conspiracy theory against them on the court when it attacks roughly half the Senate. I'm sure you conservatives would cry of this was some liberal in Kavanaugh's place because conservatives are a bunch of hypocrites.

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So is Ruth Ginsburg, at least she understands law, but interprets to a strong liberal biased. Then you have Sotomayer who thinks decisions should be based not upon the constitution but on how they feel. Every SCOTUS is biased. Why do you think both major parties fight tooth and nail to get one of their own selected?
I don't recall as much vitriolic stances from ANY Supreme Court nomination process except for Robert Bork and that was mostly due to his Watergate ties since he was the District Attorney who actually fired the special prosecutor during the Saturday Night Massacre. Even that wasn't as super tense. That and the Republicans who are the same party that didn't want Obama to nominate a replacement for Justice Scalia 11 months away from his exit to pushing a nomination process through in weeks to get Kavanaugh to be Justice Kennedy's replacement before the midterms.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 12:55 AM
 
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I believe it because I had a sensitive tummy and tended to get sick when drinking. It’s why I’ve never been a big drinker. I did have one friend in high school that was a big drinker and a big barter. He’d get really drunk, then throw up and start drinking some more. I never really understood why he’d want to do that, but he did and was well known (and well teased) for it.
If you believe that is the reason he mentions it in his year book then that is on you. Nine out of ten people would not have that interpretation. And if you were honest neither would you.

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Old 10-05-2018, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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If you believe that is the reason he mentions it in his year book then that is on you. None out of ten people would not have that interpretation. And if you were honest neither would you.
The biggest problem is conservatives especially Sen. Flake are too focus on getting a conservative leaning judge on the highest court in the land that they don't care he is biased (some actually praise that), a liar (considering many acronyms are fairly easy to find) and a possible sexual assailant.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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He had weeks to become angry. The slander was unrelenting and it was done intentionally by the democrat party. Only a robot wouldn't have been outrages.
There are a lot of liars on here though pretending like they wouldn't have been outraged by the witch hunt.

Democrats cant prove attempted rape 36 years ago, now they're going after his just response to being accused of a heinous crime with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. To make things more embarrassing for the Democrats, they're demanding an 8th FBI investigation on Kavanaugh.


This is some crazy stuff.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 01:02 AM
 
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The biggest problem is conservatives especially Sen. Flake are too focus on getting a conservative leaning judge on the highest court in the land that they don't care he is biased (some actually praise that), a liar (considering many acronyms are fairly easy to find) and a possible sexual assailant.
It is pathetic. The republicans have zero moral ground, They are the enemy of democracy and the nation.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 01:07 AM
 
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So would everyone claim it is a liberal (or conservative) hit on them? I understand the anger and I would be too but he had no control and showed a problem, the same one that came up during his previous appointment and that being his bias. Kavanaugh is truly a partisan hack.
Believe what you want, but I think judging him on one moment that anyone would react to like that is wrong when you have over 300 rulings of his to review as he has been a judge on the second highest court in the land.

Consider this whole process since his nomination in July. Before his nomination was announced the Democrats were already saying whoever it was was wrong for the court. Then the media started furiously looking for his financial records, inappropriate use of payment of his baseball season tickets, his wife’s emails to see if she ever mentioned anything about gay people, the Yale students who were furious at the school for congratulating one of their own for being nominated to the court and publishing a letter saying people will die if he gets confirmed. One senator at the confirmation hearing called him evil or wrote about it while the hearing was still in progress. The absolute circus of Women’s March protesters running in every few minutes to shout him down and get arrested, the stupid Handmaidens standing outside the hearing, and finally when he got through that pathetic gauntlet, he gets accused of sexual assault and suffocation.

Then the ridiculous things that came out after that including a friend who said she heard Kavanaugh put his penis on her face while she was passed out on the floor, corroborated by someone who also “heard” that, but the New York Times couldn’t get another confirmation after calling dozens of former classmates. Then right before the hearing he’s accused of attending parties where he and friends plied women with alcohol and drugs and ran “trains” on girls, by a woman who didn’t go to school with him, was already in college during the time period alleged, and claimed to have gone to ten such parties. And her story completely fell apart in that NBC interview where it sounded like she was talking about her sexual fantasies or writing a script for a really bad porn movie.

And then to have to sit through a hearing where they questioned him on a supposed rape, his high school behavior and comments in his yearbook, drinking while in high school and college, and having women saying he shouldn’t be confirmed because they were raped at some point in their lives. Senators were saying in cases of sexual assault allegations, the presumption of innocence should be set aside because we must believe survivors. One even said men should just shut up, and step up for once. People saying he didn’t deserve a presumption of innocence because this was a job interview, not a trial (sure looked like a trial to me, circa Salem 1692.)

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Old 10-05-2018, 01:10 AM
 
Location: NYC
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No Job interview has weeks of unfounded allegations, by the Democrat party, attacking the applicants character, integrity and basically calling them a rapist, with 0 as in zero evidence to support the allegations. Let's be honest it was less an interview and more a grand inquisition. All you party hardliners cheering it were also cheering the Democrats who tarred and feathered Bill Clinton's accusers and still make excuses for him. No the excuse is "but, but, but Clinton was just the POTUS no a SCOTUS.? LMAO
No one has called Kavanaugh a rapist, either by Democrats in the Senate or in the media. What has happened is that a lot of questions have been asked, which is par and parcel when accusations of rape suddenly come up. Maybe having a supreme court justice with accusations of rape, gang rape, excessive drinking and now perjuring himself in front of the senate doesn't bother you, but it bothers a great deal of sane people. Kavanaugh is an unhinged serial liar, if nothing else! No one like that deserves a job in most places, much less the Supreme Court.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Believe what you want, but I think judging him on one moment that anyone would react to like that is wrong when you have over 300 rulings of his to review as he has been a judge on the second highest court in the land.
I rather not because honestly you and I don't have the time. These 300 rulings were before hard proof existed of a bias that was a potential issue during his federal judge conformation under the Bush admin. So I tend to lean that it does. Plus the fact it opens to dangerous territory where the SCOTUS could be undermined due to a lack of recusal in any case involving the liberal groups he said were after him due to some Clinton based conspiracy theory. Anyone with half of a brain and don't have a conservative bias can see that.
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