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Some of you sound absolutely ridiculous. You're accusing those of us who are anti-illegals of being right wing, say this is about hate, and claim that just the sight of people from other countries puts the anti-group in fear. How stupid...lol. One of you even thinks it's clever to counter the argument of 'take them into your homes if you're okay with them being here' with 'put them in a prison cell in your garage'.
Seriously, is this the best you can come up with when debating people who feel following the law is important? How embarrassing.
Seriously, is this the best you can come up with when debating people who feel following the law is important? How embarrassing.
Most of the last caravan followed the law. Why are you convinced this one won't?
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Most of the last caravan followed the law. Why are you convinced this one won't?
Im pretty convinced when you have thousands upon thousands at our border most will not. And why would they when its soooooo much easier to cross illegally, get arrested, feed, sheltered, get medical attention and let go into our public (loophole of catch and release policy) never to be seen again until they have a run in with law enforcement for a crime, some very serious.
Do you actually think thousands upon thousands are going to line up in a orderly fashion waiting to seek asylum one by one? Did they line up in a orderly fashion at the Guatemala/Mexican border? No they broke through and invaded Mexico.
If I journeyed over 2300 miles I would not wait in line. My intention is to exploit that loophole by crossing the border illegally. As a young male (which makes up a great majority on the caravan) my chances of being granted asylum isnt so great.
Yeah, Id be hopping that fence out of desperation. Which is unfair and unlawful, but I dont care because I'm entitled to a better life. I'm taking advantage of other peoples generosity SUCKERS! Lol
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Socialism must really suck to go through all that effort to get to a capitalist country.
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Socialism? That has nothing to do with this. In fact, socialism would help the poor. Remember? It supposedly robs the rich and pays the poor.
These people were organized and motivated by someone, somewhere. I don't think people living in poverty could organize and fund their own massive migration to the USA. Something's fishy.
The people are not attempting to escape socialism ~ it's more of a Mussolini/Ayn Rand libertarian inspired 'paradise'. As per Mr. Mussolini: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state & corporate power,"
The coup in 2009 unleashed the voracity of the groups with real power in this country. It gave them free reins to take over everything. They started to reform the Constitution and many laws — the ZEDE comes in this context — and they made the Constitution into a tool for them to get rich.
As part of this process, the Honduran government passed a law in 2013 that created autonomous free-trade zones that are governed by corporations instead of the countries in which they exist. So what was the outcome? Writer Edwin Lyngar described vacationing in Honduras in 2015, an experience that turned him from Ayn Rand supporter to Ayn Rand debunker. In his words: ...
By the way, I've no idea who is 'organizing &/or funding' the people.
The American Revolution began with the American people finding much fault with the merger of King George's interests with the interests of the British East India Company.
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401 requested asylum
374 of those demonstrated credible fear (pre requisite to requesting asylum) DHS says it is not tracking how many of those who applied for asylum were granted it.
122 were apprehended trying to illegally enter (no data on whether any were subsequently granted asylum)
But let's use your figures anyway - if 122 were apprehended trying to enter illegally, that's about 1/4. I think it's safe to assume that some entered who were not apprehended. Regardless, at least 1/4 of the caravan tried to enter the US illegally. I don't know why some people think that's acceptable.
Most of the last caravan followed the law. Why are you convinced this one won't?
Not all. And previous caravans didn't start out at this size, setting a tone that makes it sound like they're coming in no matter what. Not to mention, as other posters have stated, they crashed through the border into Mexico. Do we really need more people illegally entering the country? Not when we have Americans that are in dire straights without another place to go.
As I've stated before, we'll have to see what happens once they get here - but this didn't smell right from the start and to think they're all going to accept what they're told once they arrive at our border is naive when that's not what happened previously.
Seriously, is this the best you can come up with when debating people who feel following the law is important? How embarrassing.
Most of the last caravan followed the law. Why are you convinced this one won't?
"Following the law" in this case would mean all of them showing up at a port of entry and presenting asylum applications or requests for tourist or work visas. A line of 7,000 people may be tough to manage.
And I a life long moderate Democrat will vote close to a straight party Democratic ticket. Any Democrat who votes Republican this year is a Republican. And liberal you ain't.
I have never voted a straight party ticket. But I will this time.
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Progress of the mob of migrants as of Oct. 28, 2018
SUCKERS! Lol
