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Old 10-19-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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Color nor age don't matter, no one can be forced to say the pledge. As it should be. No different than making someone pray.
They weren't being forced. Did the teacher grab their legs and make them stand?
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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They weren't being forced. Did the teacher grab their legs and make them stand?
No but they shamed her for not doing it and she did not have to do it. Not the teacher's place to pass judgment.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Since when did minor 14 year old children have full 1st amendment rights at school? Only when they are being un-American. She needs to be told she's un-American and shameful. Children don't have full rights to begin with.

The teacher did nothing wrong, and didn't violate any of her rights that she doesn't really have. This is another set up by a black person. The real racism in America is a white person can't ever even question a black person.
The right of children to not be forced to recite the pledge has been well-established law since before I was born, and I’m 71. Legally, your opinion is totally wrong. Google West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnett, 1943 and get rid of your ignorance. It’s a burden to you.

It’s wrong morally and ethically, too.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Maybe not recite the Pledge but still stand up and show respect.... and we did have some who did not say the Pledge in the 1990s when I was in school.... but they still stood to show respect for the Country that gives them the ability to have a choice in it.

Maybe this is the point.... show some respect for the Country that gives the right to CHOOSE. or MOVE.....
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Schools rules were there first.


If a judge can sue a cleaner for 7 million dollars for losing his pants and refusing restitution, anyone can sue for anything.


In fact the government should provide every person a lawyer who then, on behalf or the client/victim', sues and or settles for a ***** of change. Great way to generate income for unemployed for loathe working.


Kid went to school to learn she did learn something. that kid will be shunned wherever she goes. A troublemaker is not welcome in any business or organization. Walk on eggshells around such people. No business needs that.


Wonder if the kid has a grasp of history. Wonder if she knows who we fought in WW2 and the American revolution?
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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Color nor age don't matter, no one can be forced to say the pledge. As it should be. No different than making someone pray.
Where was the teacher trying to force the student to do anything?



"The student’s attorney, John Williams, wrote in the lawsuit that the plaintiff and the others were mocked and shamed when Belvedere thanked other students for standing during the pledge, while saying the student was “dishonest” for how she expressed her beliefs.

Another teacher was also brought into the classroom to lecture the students on “their supposed lack of patriotism,” the lawsuit reads.

The lawsuit also alleges that the student was wrongly accused of not doing her classwork.

Williams wrote in the suit that the plaintiff “has been frightened and intimidated and has suffered emotional distress and anxiety.”

She is now feeling frightened and intiidated and suffers emotional distress and anxiety.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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They weren't being forced. Did the teacher grab their legs and make them stand?
Exactly. When I was kid everyone stood and recited the pledge. No one even thought not to. If some kid did not, surely the teacher would have something to say and the kid might've been put in detention and I wouldn't have a problem with that as children are not adults.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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The right of children to not be forced to recite the pledge has been well-established law since before I was born, and I’m 71. Legally, your opinion is totally wrong. Google West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnett, 1943 and get rid of your ignorance. It’s a burden to you.

It’s wrong morally and ethically, too.
Who was forced to recite the pledge?
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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No but they shamed her for not doing it and she did not have to do it. Not the teacher's place to pass judgment.
The suit says nothing about shaming her. It says the teacher thanked the students who stood. Don't believe the hype you read on the internet.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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No one is saying the teacher forced her to stand. That was some poster here saying she could have at least stood "ut of respect." I don't think her standing would be enough for those calling her unAmerican. It seems like the teacher went above and beyond. Had he opened if up for debate, that would have been one thing. He alleged went overboard on it.

Standing up and reciting words you may or may not have memorized does not make you "more" American and being forced to do so is enither respectful of you not does it show respect to the Pledge, the flag or to the country.
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