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Old 11-10-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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You'd think he'd be willing to give Butte County a break since it voted for Trump in 2016.
I'm waiting for him to clobber Colorado as well next fire season, since we voted a republican out of the House and elected a Democrat, plus we put in a Democrat for Governor and the state legislature is now controlled by Democrats, as well. Get out there and pull up some trees, girl! We will only have ourselves to blame if we have another bad fire season here. Me, I am going to single handedly pull up all the cheat grass on the Western Slope. We all need to do our bit.
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Old 11-10-2018, 04:57 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And if he help them, you'd say it was because he voted for them.

California vote for a lying NYC Republican con-man?

Ha Ha! Good One!


And, if he did help them, it'd be a rarity, he'd be doing his job.

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Old 11-10-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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And if he help them, you'd say it was because he voted for them.
If he was only helping them (if he did) because of who votes for him, as seems to be potentially plausible when he castigates California for fires, but does not for similarly affected red states in the area, then that is also bad.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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No matter how bad a situation is, somehow dude can find a way to make it worse. It’s a special talent, for sure.

He really needs to shut the hell up sometimes. Well most of the time honestly.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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From what I have read -- The areas burning in Southern California aren't even forests. It's chaparral and coastal sage scrub. Invasive plants and the urban-wildland interface are mostly to blame.

But even if it is poor forest management -- which is debatable -- what a callous, heartless comment at a time when Americans are in danger and losing everything they have.

He's disgusting.
Exactly.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Idiots want money for windmills, bullet trains, every kind of "green" crap...
...and won't take care of their own

These fires are way too common for them to not have the equipment, on hand, and ready to go....to at least try to stop them before they get this big
and just look at the money CA spends on supporting illegal aliens that should be spent on better equipment and more firefighters
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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and just look at the money CA spends on supporting illegal aliens that should be spent on better equipment and more firefighters
You can Always expect a right wing post simply to push the political agenda. The message is clear...

If you are not a Trump supporter go ahead and burn to death...
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Old 11-10-2018, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Shows what a complete idiot and moron this man is. Trump has absolutely no clue. Drought is the leading cause of forest fires. Yes forest mismanagement back in the 60's, 70's and 80's didn't help but years of drought is what has caused this. So if a forest fire in Texas burns houses what has happened during droughts, would he hold funds from them too? What a freaking moron this man. Next think you know he will threaten to withhold funds in Hurricane prone areas.
That's the simple truth.

Drought brings everything necessary in any fire the closest to the critical spot. Heat, oxygen, and fuel. When drought makes the air less humid, dries out the fuel, and supplies high winds for plenty of oxygen, it doesn't take much for a spark to become an inferno.

The 20th century was historically cool and damp. The 21st century is proving to be dry and hot.

The only way we can ever combat wildfire semi-effectively now is to make it as much a national priority as the cold war was in the 20th century.

As it is now, all our national efforts in firefighting are still essentially the same as they were in 1918. We have learned more about wildfire since then, but far too much of what has been learned has never been implemented. There is also still much to learn about wildfire too.

One of the most obvious things we need to learn is how to escape fire when it breaks out. The complete destruction of Paradise, California presents a warning our government needs to heed at all levels from city to federal.
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Old 11-10-2018, 07:23 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Sadly, this will not be the end. Forest fires today burn a lot hotter than they used to, and they leave hydrophobic soil, which means that when the rains come, there will be yet more destruction from mud slides and flooding. We saw it here in Colorado a few years ago. I have nothing but sympathy for the people of California. This nightmare is not yet over. Not by a long shot.
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Old 11-10-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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Poor forest management isn't debatable.

Many areas designated forests don't have that many trees, just a lot of tall shrubs and brush. My first trip I saw signs 'Welcome to ______Forest' and wondered, Where is it?

For a crystalline example, I present to you the Lincoln National Forest in southern New Mexico.


Next to the boundary marker, there is ne'er the tree in sight. You may have to travel 50 miles overland into this "forest" to see a tree.
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