Drunks fire on bar, black security guard apprehends drunks, police arrive and kill the black guy (marijuana, concealed carry)
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It diesn't matter whether he was licensced because they never stopped to find out.
It's not like they shot him after checking if he had the right kind of paperwork.
According to winesses, he never got a chance to say a word. They never told him to put the gun down. They just shot him.
Yes it does because if he was actually following the law he would have never been in the situation to begin with. It's terrible what happened but he brought it on himself.
Its a fact that he had a gun and didn't have a permit to carry it in public.
"Roberson was holding a firearm he was licensed to carry. Other witnesses, and a lawsuit filed by Roberson's family, reportedly said he was wearing a hat emblazoned with the word "security."
"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' " Harris told WGN. "And they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him."
Another witness, Jakia Woods, told member station WBEZ's Miles Bryan that Roberson was wearing an orange vest and the hat marked "security."
She said it was "absolutely clear" that he was a security guard."
"Roberson was holding a firearm he was licensed to carry. Other witnesses, and a lawsuit filed by Roberson's family, reportedly said he was wearing a hat emblazoned with the word "security."
"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' " Harris told WGN. "And they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him."
Another witness, Jakia Woods, told member station WBEZ's Miles Bryan that Roberson was wearing an orange vest and the hat marked "security."
She said it was "absolutely clear" that he was a security guard."
"Roberson was holding a firearm he was licensed to carry. Other witnesses, and a lawsuit filed by Roberson's family, reportedly said he was wearing a hat emblazoned with the word "security."
"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' " Harris told WGN. "And they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him."
Another witness, Jakia Woods, told member station WBEZ's Miles Bryan that Roberson was wearing an orange vest and the hat marked "security."
She said it was "absolutely clear" that he was a security guard."
This won't be settled until we see the security tapes.
He was a BOUNCER! Witnesses are saying the wrong **** because they don't even know the difference between a paid armed security and bouncer working door security. He had no CCW, he had a PURCHASERS permit. The MSM is purposely muddying the waters with all the doublespeak and misinformation.
In a statement released late Tuesday night, the Illinois State Police said that according to witness statements, an officer from the nearby village of Midlothian gave Roberson "multiple verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the ground before ultimately discharging his weapon and striking the subject."
The agency said Roberson was in "plain black clothing with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard."
Yeah, I retract what I said, doesn't sound like a cop problem. Sounds like a dummy problem where people still think they have something to gain by ignoring the demands of an officer with a gun pointed at them.
thanks for providing some key information. i didn't see anything remotely like this on the first thread.
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Originally Posted by jacqueg
IF that's what happened. Security tapes are available but haven't been released yet. It's - interesting - that people who were actually there and witnessed it are telling a different story than the cops are.
The other thread on Jemel Roberson is clogged up with fluff.
Let's hear it. What do conservatives and the NRA think about the Jemel Roberson case?
what is your question..specifically???
do I think the security guard (actually just a bouncer) Jemel Roberson is a hero.... yes
do I think the cops rushed... yes and no
why did I say yes and no In a statement released late Tuesday night, the Illinois State Police said that according to witness statements, an officer from the nearby village of Midlothian gave Roberson "multiple verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the ground before ultimately discharging his weapon and striking the subject."
The agency said Roberson was in "plain black clothing with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard."
was he (Jemel Roberson ) authorized to carry a weapon on his job.....nope
does that make all cops bad, or have bad judgement....nope
does it mean that all cops rush in judgement...nope
does that have anything to do with the 2nd amendment.... nope..why..because this is not about a citizen owning and carrying, this is about a security guard that violated the rules of his job..yes he was a hero, but he was not authorized to carry the (personal weapon) on the job
does this question point one way or the other at conservatives... not really, but it certainly is a POINTED question, since you are asking "Conservatives and the NRA"
does this open-ended question ask a specific question... nope poorly written, vague, (maybe even trolling) type of question...
may the hero (who failed to obey the rules of the job, AND obey the commands of the police) Jemel Roberson rest in peace
Last edited by workingclasshero; 11-14-2018 at 01:32 PM..
No need, its in just about every story about the incident. He was not legally allowed to carry.
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Originally Posted by trlhiker
If you read the story, multiple witness's put the blame right on the cop as many were shouting that he was a security guard. Sounds like the cops are trying to cover their butts on this one.
I did one better than just reading it, I actually digested and understood what was printed there, and I've already commented on that, so let me summarize for you.
1. Witnesses in POLICE REPORTS say one thing
2. People who want to be on TV told reporters another thing
There are consequences for those who lie to police, not so much for those who lie to reporters. (see our current POTUS if you need a better example)
For now I'll side with the stories of those who face legal action if they are lying.
IF that's what happened. Security tapes are available but haven't been released yet. It's - interesting - that people who were actually there and witnessed it are telling a different story than the cops are.
thanks for providing some key information. i didn't see anything remotely like this on the first thread.
What is happening now is the MSM (Lefty News) is spreading misinformation on purpose. They are calling him a security guard when he was only a bouncer working door security for the club. They are also saying the gun was legal but leaving out the fact that it was only legal in his in own home since he only had a buyers permit not a CCW. The lies and propaganda are thick in this one.
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