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Old 12-19-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
If that is true then why is their federal legislation pending specifically spelling out Israel, why do these states find it necessary to do the same. I just don't see this as being legal when using taxpayer funds, Similar legislation in Kansas and Arizona have already lost in court.
You are right, it seems they have.

ACLU WITHDRAWS FREE SPEECH LAWSUIT AGAINST LAW REQUIRING CONTRACTORS TO SIGN DOCUMENT PROMISING NOT TO BOYCOTT ISRAEL

TOPEKA, Kan. — Following amendments to a Kansas law that required a public school educator to certify that she wouldn’t boycott Israel, the American Civil Liberties Union agreed to dismiss its lawsuit challenging the law.

In January, a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction blocking enforcement of the law, finding that it violated the First Amendment right to participate in political boycotts. It was the first ruling addressing a wave of laws nationwide aiming to punish people who boycott Israel. The ACLU is also fighting a similar law in Arizona.


https://www.aclu.org/news/after-cour...oycotts-israel

It shouldn't take a lawsuit to understand how clearly this is unconstitutional. Seems for some, only the second amendment counts.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's not an "if it's true" thing. The law is a fact and has existed for over 40 years.


https://www.export.gov/article?id=An...tt-Regulations


The U.S. has an established policy of opposing restrictive trade practices or boycotts fostered or imposed by foreign countries against other countries friendly to the U.S. This policy is implemented through the anti-boycott provisions of the Export Administration Act of 1979 (EAA)—enforced by the U.S. Department of Commerce— and through a 1977 amendment to the Tax Reform Act of 1976—enforced by the U.S. Department of the Treasury.


Part 760 of the EAR implements the EAA’s anti-boycott provisions. U.S. persons are prohibited from taking certain actions with the intent to comply with, further, or support an unsolicited foreign boycott. Prohibitions include:
  • Refusing to do business with a boycotted or blacklisted entity
  • Discriminating against, or agreeing to discriminate against, any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin
  • Furnishing information about business relationships with a boycotted country or a blacklisted entity In addition, the EAR requires a U.S. person to notify the U.S. Department of Commerce if he or she receives a request to comply with an unsanctioned foreign boycotted country or a blacklisted entity.
In addition, the EAR requires a US person to notify the U.S. Department of Commerce if he or she receives a request to comply with an unsanctioned foreign boycott.
That is an export law, I don't believe it applies.


Like I indicated if that was the case why the need to single out Israel.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Jeez talk about a misleading thread title.

She's not a Texas teacher, she's a contractor and Texas law states that the state will not do business with any entity involved in the BDS movement.

It's also not an oath, it's policy.

She's out of luck.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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Jeez talk about a misleading thread title.

She's not a Texas teacher, she's a contractor and Texas law states that the state will not do business with any entity involved in the BDS movement.

It's also not an oath, it's policy.

She's out of luck.
See above. The courts are ruling against these laws.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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She is self employed. She is not an employee of the district.
She is the only one barking.
She isn't "the only one barking." Several others have complained about this contract.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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See above. The courts are ruling against these laws.
Exactly. They're unconstitutional. Compelled speech is unconstitutional when committed by any public entity. If the teacher wants to be a member of the BDS movement, that's her right. However, IF she begins indoctrinating students through her teaching or offers generally inappropriate ans/or disruptive political comments to students, she can legally be fired.

https://www.americanbar.org/publicat...eachersrights/
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Why is this even a requirement? Why is anyone asking a U.S. citizen to sign such an oath?
There is no "pro Israel Oath".

Do a little research. There are laws all over the country like this. And the impetus is the UN.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Why is this even a requirement? Why is anyone asking a U.S. citizen to sign such an oath?

Here's the lawsuit:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...er-Israel.html

Here's Glenn Greenwold's article on it:

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/...-anti-bds-law/


Read it all.

I'd love to hear what others have to say about this.
And once again America is caught in between another Arab tussle. I hardly believe anyone from that region will swear true allegiance to America because nation is secondary for those 2 groups .
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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As Greenwald points out, it's not even an oath to THIS country where she's a citizen, it's asking her to sign an oath to another country. That's absurd.
And since she wasn't asked to sign an oath to another country, your post is absurd.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Jeez talk about a misleading thread title.

She's not a Texas teacher, she's a contractor and Texas law states that the state will not do business with any entity involved in the BDS movement.

It's also not an oath, it's policy.

She's out of luck.
And it's not a "pro Israel oath".
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