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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-05-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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I always like to ask for a link when the expressed opinion seems unfounded, unjustified, but when someone asks for a link about something that should be common knowledge and/or easily Googled, I don't usually see the need to provide the link as you do. Trump is going to make a State of the Union address tonight. Need a link?

Just saying...

There is that condescending attitude again...just saying....
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Agree. Per my original observation about another poster's "leftie" comment .. there has not been that much expression of the Democratic progressive view in these threads. No argument this is less true of the far right views with concerns expressed using language like "invasions" etc. I also said that I wouldn't have minded hearing the progressive views.
Fair enough, but describing other views as "progressive" tends to do the same thing, because people have predetermined biased views about what "progressive" means...

A challenge no matter how you look at it, but sure seems to me that people don't realize just how varied all these views can be. Think about the basic right vs left limitation. Two sides? Two views?

Of course there are countless views all in between that might make a whole lot better sense to people if they were expressed in simple terms, with facts, reason and logic, rather than labeled as "progressive" for example.

Again just pontificating, because I really don't think people can change their ways much, or their thinking. "Just can't change the spots on a dog."
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Have a link?
Most people commenting in this thread are aware that the bipartisan committee tasked to work out an agreement was part of the deal to reopen the government. Maybe you should educate yourself before commenting about things you obviously know nothing about.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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Most people commenting in this thread are aware that the bipartisan committee tasked to work out an agreement was part of the deal to reopen the government. Maybe you should educate yourself before commenting about things you obviously know nothing about.


Maybe you don't understand what the "?" is at the end....Also


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Sorry, guess I'm old school, because when I state something as fact, I always provide a link to back myself up....you should try it sometime




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Old 02-05-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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There is that condescending attitude again...just saying....
Perhaps, but if you can get past whatever attitudes you think are being expressed and instead consider the comment without emotion, you might get less condescension. I mean I try, and I'm sorry, but asking for a link about the committee working on negotiating border security, the topic of this thread, well...

I wouldn't call that "old school" in any case.

Here's a link about the State of the Union address tonight. My bad.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/05/polit...ess/index.html
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:45 AM
 
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Perhaps, but if you can get past whatever attitudes you think are being expressed and instead consider the comment without emotion, you might get less condescension. I mean I try, and I'm sorry, but asking for a link about the committee working on negotiating border security, the topic of this thread, well...

I wouldn't call that "old school" in any case.

Here's a link about the State of the Union address tonight. My bad.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/05/polit...ess/index.html

You had to respond....it's was killing you to see my remark and just could not leave it alone....
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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You had to respond....it's was killing you to see my remark and just could not leave it alone....
True. Asking for a link about that committee really struck me as..., well, odd, not "old school" for starters. Perhaps I'm just defending my status as an OG. Best leave it at that perhaps...
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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Perhaps, but if you can get past whatever attitudes you think are being expressed and instead consider the comment without emotion, you might get less condescension. I mean I try, and I'm sorry, but asking for a link about the committee working on negotiating border security, the topic of this thread, well...

I wouldn't call that "old school" in any case.
He's here to cheer his team, period. Knowing the subject matter is apparently unimportant when you just show up to shake the pom-poms.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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He's here to cheer his team, period. Knowing the subject matter is apparently unimportant when you just show up to shake the pom-poms.
Wish I could disagree, but I've also got to remember the words I'm trying to live by...

I have come to the frightening conclusion that I am the decisive element. It is my personal approach that creates the climate. It is my daily mood that makes the weather. I possess tremendous power to make life miserable or joyous. I can be a tool of torture or an instrument of inspiration; I can humiliate or humor, hurt or heal. In all situations, it is my response that decides whether a crisis is escalated or de-escalated, and a person is humanized or de-humanized. If we treat people as they are, we make them worse. If we treat people as they ought to be, we help them become what they are capable of becoming. -- Goethe

Unfortunately, some people truly test my ability to walk this talk. Like I sometimes tell my wife, I'm not Buddha! Still, I know I can do better, especially with other people who can do better too...
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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He's here to cheer his team, period. Knowing the subject matter is apparently unimportant when you just show up to shake the pom-poms.


I've called trump a liar before....Just because you disagree with him, does not mean you are correct...
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