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Originally Posted by Mathguy
1.He made the press look bad. They jumped all over a story that was incredibly shaky from the start as 100% real without any tough questions etc. Ironically, even now with the facts coming out we have reporters being accused of racism, anti-gay blah blah blah for being tough on Jussie.
2. He made knee jerk support for him from some on the left willing to lay this all at Trumps feet, look bad.
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Naw, they made themselves look bad. We have people on this thread who are liberal and didn't buy into it right from the start - it's a personal choice to allow yourself to fall for something because your (general) hatred of a sitting president is so deep that you no longer have the ability to think clearly.
Hating the president is fine - I hated Obama. But that's where it ended. These people are obsessed. They lie about him non stop, they talk about him non stop, they respond to him on social media non stop, they can't get over it. I hated Obama, so I ignored as much as I could of him for 8 long years. If you hate something, why would you keep subjecting yourself to that which you hate? Turn it off, change the channel, flip the page, go take a walk in the park and get back to your real life - it truly is a mental issue that some subject themselves to rage every day.
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Originally Posted by Moth
Well, I counseled that everyone take a deep breath and wait. And now it seems it was a scam from the get go.
Jussie and his minions would do well to read Aesop's, "The Boy Who Cried Wolf."
To the bigger picture, it is quite clear that the Left is lost in a storm of hysteria. Complete and utter hysteria mostly focusing on race. Salem, McCarthyism; history repeats itself.
They have to create racism in order to combat it.
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re: bolded That's the best way I've ever seen it put.
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer
The United States of America is not as racist or homophobic as some people want to believe it is.
This should be a relief for us all.
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Originally Posted by EastwardBound
Actually America is not racist or homophobic at all. As a gay man in an interracial marriage, I can say that I have never experienced discrimination in this country other than once, when a homeless black man on a bus in LA called me a ***.
The left likes to think that America is a terrible place, where gay or black people are harassed daily. The truth is that even in Mississippi, people are accepted and no one makes a big deal about anyone. They're living in their own terrible fantasy world.
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If you can't scare people into thinking there's a problem, and you have nothing else to offer - the party will die. Aside from non stop fear mongering about the "evil white racist Trump supporters", what else has the left even got? Socialism?
They have nothing. They stand for nothing.
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Originally Posted by AguaDulce
Choices are extremely limited in the middle of the week for a quick bite after midnight within walking distance of his apartment. And this was 2:00 am.
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He had just landed from a flight. He had every opportunity to get a quick bite at any number of locations along the way - starting at the airport. I keep saying this, he's not poor. He could have gotten a ride home, (since he claimed he didn't want to be noticed), contacted a restaurant for delivery, and never had to deal with the freezing temps. Most normal people would have done just that.
Yes, it was to establish his time line and location - of course, we know that. But at the beginning, when some people were actually buying this horse manure, I can't help but wonder why they didn't think about what people would normally do. Human behavior - people have got to start paying attention to it. It gives so much away.
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Originally Posted by Seagrape Grove
When a black, gay actor fakes a hate crime that targets his race and his sexual orientation and blames it on the racism and homophobia of (presumably) white, male Trump supporters it reflects badly on blacks and gays as this guy was exploiting his "victimhood", which, by extension, spreads out to all blacks and gays. And the way the MSM jumped on the "victimhood" and condemned the crime as "this is America 2019", trying to make it appear that Trump supporters are the scum of the earth is far and beyond "journalist irresponsibility".
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That is exactly what he was doing - exploiting his victimhood status that his echo chambers of Trump haters told him he "earned". And yes, it did harm black people, gay people, black gay people, as well. As some have pointed out: What do we do now when we hear about another assault on a female? Most people tend to either not believe it, or they wait to see what the facts are. And why is that? Duke. La. Cross.
To state that these fake hate crimes do not have any effect on future claims is naive. When they are this publicly talked about - it's even worse.
And all of those "This is America 2019" jerks need to take a good, long, hard look in the mirror and ask themselves what is their role in the "This is America 2019" problem? Can you imagine if this was never discovered as a fake? Can you imagine how many innocent people would be attacked, even more than Trump supporters are already attacked for wearing a hat, that some brazenly come out and say, "is a symbol of hate" - it's a fricken hat! If they have a shirt that sends the message that they are Conservative, if they have a bumper sticker, hat, keychain, a flag at all - they were already being attacked, this would have made it so much worse.
And yet what did these propaganda spewers do? Splashed that story all over the place, inserted their opinions, their "disgust", their "outrage", all the while knowing full well that all of that, every last bit of it, was trained right on Trump supporters as well as Trump.
Do you see any apologies? The closest we got was a half arsed one from Avenatti, of all people. Where's the rest of them? The media? Nancy? Kamala? Cory? Don Lemon? Maxine (lol...we know better than that...she'll never apologize)? Etc. Where are they now? "We have to wait for the facts." NO! Where is the apology for instantly believing that it was true because at that time, it was "evil, racist, horrible white Trump supporters". Where is the apology to all of us that you immediately think that about all of us without one single shred of evidence?
These politicians are showing who they are - it's not a good look. We already knew the media was garbage, but they still need to come right out and apologize.
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Originally Posted by Chowhound
...What is wrong with some people??? Now I'm hearing he did it because he did get a real threatening racist letter recently and he was upset that people weren't "upset" enough about it so he goes out and concocts this silly story. I'm no real trump fan buy why drag MAGA hat wearing guys into the story??
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No one said the letter was true. They said the letter wasn't getting enough attention, according to Smollett. It doesn't mean it was true.
And him "being upset" doesn't mean that he thought the alleged hate crayon drawing was not taken seriously, it's simply him "being upset" that people didn't pay more attention to it. That still doesn't mean it was a true letter, or that Smollett didn't make it, or that is upset had anything to do with real incidents.
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Originally Posted by EastwardBound
Liberals were so keen to believe this story because this is what they think of America. They think America is an evil, racist, homophobic place. But, those of us who understand reality, know that America is the greatest thing that has ever existed. My Asian-American gay husband and I know this and everyone treats us equally and well.
You are what you think. If you think of yourself as a victim, you will be one. My husband hates being put into the 'people of color' at his workplace. He rightfully feels that label is degrading, as all people are people. We Republicans will continue to refuse Democrats' divisive tactics.
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I'm not a "POC" but I find that highly offensive. For the identity politics crowd, I'm both surprised and not that they have clung to it. Surprised because they so love identity, but then choose to strip that identity away by taking a person - say your husband who is gay and of Asian decent - and ripping all of that away to relegate him only to "person of color". Like your husband is an object, not a human being.
Not surprised because by joining all groups of people who are not white, they are trying to create a huge "Us vs Them" situation. What is so stupid about that is all the whining and carrying on about "white people" is that white people are, and have been for some time, a minority on this planet. It's like some won't be happy until they wipe out every last one of them.
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