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My link specifically talked about the Obama administration making late payments to contractors after the October 2013 shutdown, the only shutdown during Obama's administration.
YOUR argument was that no one should complain about Trump not paying back contractors after the shutdown he "gladly owned", because Obama didn't pay back contractors. But evidently Obama did pay back contractors, because there wouldn't have been late payments if there hadn't been missed payments during that shutdown.
Now, I believe that Trump will pay back contractors, depending on the contractor, because these are contracts we are talking about. While it will depend on the contract's requirements, the government will meet its obligations.
But my rebuttal is to your statement, "3rd party contractors didn't get paid during the Obama Administration shutdown", because it was an attempt to establish parity with the thread title, "Trump is refusing to pay contractors for work during the shutdown". President Obama did pay contractors for work during the shutdown. So if President Trump is refusing to pay (which I am not sure is true), then there is no parity between them.
I think you might not have this right.
During a shutdown, some contractors are not allowed to work because of the nature of their contracts. They don't bill, they don't get paid, and they also don't get back pay.
Some contractors can work during a shutdown and get pay as long as they are permitted and they are funded at the time of the shutdown.
Now, during a shutdown, contractors who are working are constantly invoicing the government. Usually every 2-4 weeks. During a shutdown, those payments for work previously performed don't get made because there is no one working at the government to authorize those payments. They then get paid very late.
Obama made some provision to get them quickly paid.
That is not the same as "back pay" for work you didn't do. No administration has ever paid contractors for being impacted by the shutdown.
Do hourly outside workers get paid when the weather shuts the job down? They got laid off due to no work. It's stupid, but it's the government.
The real question is were there any contractors that were deemed "essential personnel" and had to work during the shutdown but are, reportedly, in danger of not getting paid for that work.
IF there are any contractors in that boat, they absolutely should be paid. Otherwise, not so much.
The real question is were there any contractors that were deemed "essential personnel" that had to work during the shutdown but are, reportedly, in danger of not getting paid for that work.
IF there are any contractors in that boat, they absolutely should be paid. Otherwise, not so much.
I can't imagine why they wouldn't. They could legally bill the government if they had to work.
The issue lies with contractors (much like federal workers) through the nature of their jobs became political pawns as a result of government dysfunction. It used to be something that you didn't need to concern yourself with (unlike the weather if you are an outside worker) but it has now become expected/accepted.
The real question is were there any contractors that were deemed "essential personnel" and had to work during the shutdown but are, reportedly, in danger of not getting paid for that work.
IF there are any contractors in that boat, they absolutely should be paid. Otherwise, not so much.
The real question is Is Trump actually refusing to pay contractors for work during the shutdown? Laws are already established for government shutdown and
Any new legislation is only now introduced in the Senate.
Generally speaking, Federal contractors don’t get paid during shut downs.
The largest contractors are defence. For example, Boeing has many contracts to produce planes for the Federal Government. The production line is not closed during a shutdown. Upon completing terms of the contract, they get paid.
Where large contractors might be impacted are potential delays in approving new contracts. It’s an opportunity cost absorbed by contractors.
In contrast, a business that provides say janitorial or security or garbage collection or food services typically lays off their employees because work is suspended for the duration of the shutdown. The level of distress must be intense.
There is nothing factual to support these contractors have ever been retroactively paid for shutdown time and nothing to ensure furloughed workers would receive retro pay, if they were.
This comment above is really anyone needs to know on this subject. In other words, the media is trying to make a non-story into something and it's simply not. Really, this is business as usual.
So far, despite all the hurried negotiations over the details of border-security funding, Congress seems to be in agreement that the government will not shut down again on Friday, and has agreed to backpay some 800,000 federal workers the salaries they missed during the previous 35-day shutdown. But when it comes to the federal contractors who also went unpaid during that period—up to 580,000 people, according to one estimate—it gets trickier. “I’ve been told the president won’t sign” anything that guarantees them backpay, Senator Roy Blunt told reporters on Wednesday. “I guess federal contractors are different in his view than federal employees.”
You really should seek help for that TDS you clearly have. Nine out of ten negative Trump posts are yours. Calm down and take a deep breath. In less than six years, Trump will give up the reins to, hopefully, Trey Gowdy!!
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