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During a shutdown, some contractors are not allowed to work because of the nature of their contracts. They don't bill, they don't get paid, and they also don't get back pay.
Some contractors can work during a shutdown and get pay as long as they are permitted and they are funded at the time of the shutdown.
Now, during a shutdown, contractors who are working are constantly invoicing the government. Usually every 2-4 weeks. During a shutdown, those payments for work previously performed don't get made because there is no one working at the government to authorize those payments. They then get paid very late.
Obama made some provision to get them quickly paid.
That is not the same as "back pay" for work you didn't do. No administration has ever paid contractors for being impacted by the shutdown.
I think I understand it perfectly. I never referenced pay for work that wasn't done.
This comment above is really anyone needs to know on this subject. In other words, the media is trying to make a non-story into something and it's simply not. Really, this is business as usual.
While the story posted by the OP definitely had a negative Trump spin to it, there are various other media reports on the same story.
The fact of the matter is that some Senate democrats tried to tack on a provision to this latest "compromise." That provision would also provide financial protection to government contractors who were also jerked around because Congress can't get it's job done. The GOP asked that it be removed because they believe that Trump would not sign the entire bill with this piece in it. Whether he would or not, who knows, but his mouthpieces did not think he would.
I think I understand it perfectly. I never referenced pay for work that wasn't done.
But that is what this thread is about.
Giving contractors parity with federal workers. Federal workers, who did not work for 35 days, got paid. The contractors did not. A bill was introduced to make that happen.
Your links were referencing late payments that Obama rectified. Not backpay.
Giving contractors parity with federal workers. Federal workers, who did not work for 35 days, got paid. The contractors did not. A bill was introduced to make that happen.
Your links were referencing late payments that Obama rectified. Not backpay.
I don't think that that is what this thread is about.
I think this thread is about not paying contractors FOR WORK during the shutdown. That is the thread title, isn't it? FOR WORK.
Late payments are BACK pay.
As I stated in one of my earlier posts, I don't believe that Trump is going to not pay contractors for work, because as long as they have contracts (contractors sign contracts), the government is obligated to pay them, and the government will meet its obligations.
But I do believe that the poster I was having a discussion with was trying to argue that Obama didn't pay contractors FOR WORK during the shutdown, and that argument was false.
While the story posted by the OP definitely had a negative Trump spin to it, there are various other media reports on the same story.
The fact of the matter is that some Senate democrats tried to tack on a provision to this latest "compromise." That provision would also provide financial protection to government contractors who were also jerked around because Congress can't get it's job done. The GOP asked that it be removed because they believe that Trump would not sign the entire bill with this piece in it. Whether he would or not, who knows, but his mouthpieces did not think he would.
Of course he wouldn't have signed it. Neither would his predecessors but now they can run a hit piece in the news saying "Trump refuses to pay contractors." It's a non-story. Stand by that or rather, it's a manufactured one.
Except that's not what this thread is about so you, in fact, don't understand it at all let alone "perfectly".
Except that that is what this thread is about. It says so in the thread title. FOR WORK. And you were trying to argue that Obama had not paid contractors FOR WORK during a shutdown, so it is okay if Trump does not pay contractors FOR WORK during a shutdown. And I was pointing out that Obama DID pay contractors FOR WORK during the shutdown.
So far, despite all the hurried negotiations over the details of border-security funding, Congress seems to be in agreement that the government will not shut down again on Friday, and has agreed to backpay some 800,000 federal workers the salaries they missed during the previous 35-day shutdown. But when it comes to the federal contractors who also went unpaid during that period—up to 580,000 people, according to one estimate—it gets trickier. “I’ve been told the president won’t sign” anything that guarantees them backpay, Senator Roy Blunt told reporters on Wednesday. “I guess federal contractors are different in his view than federal employees.”
Trump has a consistent history of not paying contractors for their work. What's new?
Except that that is what this thread is about. It says so in the thread title. FOR WORK. And you were trying to argue that Obama had not paid contractors FOR WORK during a shutdown, so it is okay if Trump does not pay contractors FOR WORK during a shutdown. And I was pointing out that Obama DID pay contractors FOR WORK during the shutdown.
So Yes, I understood perfectly.
You are correct, the title of the thread and the Vanity Fair piece says that. Further reading the many articles on this (as well as the Vanity Fair piece) this is for contractors who were out of work, and did not work. As far as I can tell and have read, there were no contractors that worked during the shutdown and did not/will not receive pay. Their payments from the government could be delayed due to the shutdown/backlog, but they will be paid.
Except that that is what this thread is about. It says so in the thread title. FOR WORK. And you were trying to argue that Obama had not paid contractors FOR WORK during a shutdown, so it is okay if Trump does not pay contractors FOR WORK during a shutdown. And I was pointing out that Obama DID pay contractors FOR WORK during the shutdown.
So Yes, I understood perfectly.
Stop digging, you're just making yourself look stupid. Even the contractors on here are telling you you're wrong. Or proving the only thing you read was the title and not what was being talked about.
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