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Old 02-16-2019, 06:34 PM
 
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As far as I can find out, the $40-60 million number is sheer whole cloth speculation. Just the fact that they give a $20 million range shows that this did not leak from someone 'in the know.'

The truth appears to be that those who know, aren't saying, and those who say, don't know.

The settlement is probably about 10% of what is being reported...probably somewhere in the $6 to $8 million range. It doesn't make any sense that the NFL chose to pay this clown $60-$80 million as a settlement rather than taking their chances at trial. The NFL probably could have gotten off with an exposure of $20-$30 million including legal costs even if they lost the case, and would likely have been able to get that sum reduced on appeal.

It generally doesn't make financial sense to settle a case for a greater amount than the judgment award would have been.
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Old 02-16-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The settlement is probably about 10% of what is being reported...probably somewhere in the $6 to $8 million range. It doesn't make any sense that the NFL chose to pay this clown $60-$80 million as a settlement rather than taking their chances at trial. The NFL probably could have gotten off with an exposure of $20-$30 million including legal costs even if they lost the case, and would likely have been able to get that sum reduced on appeal.

It generally doesn't make financial sense to settle a case for a greater amount than the judgment award would have been.
He signed a contract in 2014 for $126M through 2020, how much do you think he would have been paid the past few years. The NFL wanted no part of a jury trial smart move because he was quite capable of being a back up or starter in the last 3 years. Where do you come up with $8M, Ryan Fitzpatrick was paid around $12M a year for the past 2 years and he was almost 40 years old. Imagine his lawyers dragging out all the 2nd and 3rd string salaries in front of a jury, good luck with your numbers.
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Old 02-16-2019, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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...The NFL wanted no part of a jury trial smart move because he was quite capable of being a back up or starter in the last 3 years..
Again this is sheer speculation. My guess would be that the NFL wanted no part of the drip-drip-drip of publicity, which would have been drawn out and then raised to a fever pitch if an actual trial happened.

I'm not a lawyer, but I've heard many of them say that collusion would be inherently difficult to prove. But my guess is that the NFL just wanted to bring this to a close, and Kapaernick wanted the money. The one thing we do know is that the two sides got exactly that.
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Old 02-16-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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Ol' Kaepernick wasn't too proud to take the evil Whitemans money now, was he?
There isn’t a source in this world that you wouldn’t take money from.

And those white men made that money from a sport that black men dominate and make marketable. So Kap should feel zero guilt.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:28 PM
 
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Hell no, why would he? They froze him out and rather than get their asses handed to them, they settled out of court for their malfeasance.


This story doesn't really move me, but it's always nice to see the little guy win. NFL money is long. They would have gone all the way if they thought they could win, but they don't want to set a precedent. Go Kap! Integrity over everything.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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"Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything."

I guess he believes in 60 million dollars and sacrificing his principles for it. Sell out.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:50 PM
 
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Social Activism? That s free. Doesnt need donations.

He was a victim. He was penalized , ostracized, scapegoated, financially ruined..career murdered for not standing during the Pledge of Allegiance. Un believable.
You know who does something like this to its citizens? North Korea.

I hope he keeps 100% of the $$.$$.

Maybe next ,Trump and his wanna be dictator buddies can rally the Pope , and the local minister to go after people who choose to pray outside or at home instead of church, or on Thursday instead of Sunday

NFL Football can take a long walk on a short pier. They suck.
$60 mil is peanuts for the NFL. They got the biggest thorn in their side out of the way and did not have to go to court which would have been a PR nightmare.

The NFL won big time on this. Its like giving some crazy homeless dude asking for money a quarter just to leave you alone.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:58 PM
 
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He signed a contract in 2014 for $126M through 2020, how much do you think he would have been paid the past few years. The NFL wanted no part of a jury trial smart move because he was quite capable of being a back up or starter in the last 3 years. Where do you come up with $8M, Ryan Fitzpatrick was paid around $12M a year for the past 2 years and he was almost 40 years old. Imagine his lawyers dragging out all the 2nd and 3rd string salaries in front of a jury, good luck with your numbers.
1. Kaepernick wouldn't have been paid anything, at least not for the past couple of years. His skills were in terminal decline by the time he and the 49ers restructured the contract you mentioned into 2 years, with a player option for a third year. Kaepernick opted out of his contract voluntarily in March, 2017, after being benched in favor of Blaine Gabbert.

That's right. Kaepernick's performance on the field was so abominably bad at the end of his tenure with the 49ers that the 49ers decided to go with the lowly Blaine Gabbert as the starter.

Blaine Gabbert. The QB who put the "under" in "underachiever." And the 49ers decided they were better off with him under center than Kaepernick. That alone should give you an idea about Kaepernick's value even as a backup QB at that point in his career.

2. Ryan Fitzpatrick has demonstrated his abilities both in the starting and backup roles, is universally regarded as a highly intelligent practitioner of the game, and by all reports, has been generally well-liked by his teammates wherever he has played. In contrast to Kaepernick, Fitzpatrick is not a sniveling head-case, refrains from becoming a bad locker-room influence, and resists the temptation to call attention to himself for his own self-serving purposes, something Kaepernick has yet to master.

The key to all this is the fact that Kaepernick opted out of the final year of his contract in SF, then proceeded to stink the place up with woefully substandard play and self-serving SJW posturing. That might have been OK if the 49ers had been paying him to stink on the field and call attention to himself with silly protests, but they weren't. They were paying him to play football at the highest professional level, which he wasn't doing, primarily because he was no longer so capable due to injuries. Bear in mind that most players in the final year of their contracts play lights-out during that contract year so as to increase their value on the open market. Not so with Kaepernick (which stands as a stunning indictment of his intelligence, or more properly, his lack thereof.)

Given all this, it's simply no surprise no NFL team wanted the guy. A settlement of $6 to $8 million would have been an outright gift to Kaepernick, one he didn't actually deserve.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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https://www.sbnation.com/2019/2/15/1...lement-protest

Wow, $60 million? I thought it wasn't about the money? Will he be giving 90% to social activism?

This is why playing the race card and being a victim is such a big business in America, he earned more by kneeling than he ever did playing.
How does this make it about the money ? Either the NFL was wrong, or they werent.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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They got the biggest thorn in their side out of the way and did not have to go to court which would have been a PR nightmare.
He wasn't bothering anyone by kneeling during he anthem. Most people didn't even know he was doing it. The NFL created their own problem and now they have to pay for it. Stick to football, boys. Now if we can only convince these dudes to STOP working for the NFL. Put their butts out of business once and for all.
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