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Old 02-21-2019, 06:24 PM
 
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Warren is a corporate lapdog.
Actually, Native American US Senator Elizabeth Warren is a shrill harpy. Listening to her is like listening to fingernails on a chalk board.

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Old 02-21-2019, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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He only drives local. He refuses to take a higher-paying OTR job, and whines that he doesn't think he's earning enough.
Where was he whining? geezus why are you so judgemental?
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Furthermore, poverty is a choice. People choose it by intentionally screwing up their lives by drinking, drugging, making random babies, not taking care of business, not studying in school, etc. Poverty is impossible if you follow a life of common sense and don’t get a rare disease or injury.
Kids are not poor by choice wake up.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:40 PM
 
Location: London
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:45 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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I know for a fact that NJ and PA have subsidized childcare. Lower income families pay zero to a portion of childcare depending on their income.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn of other states that do the same.

The parents have to show they’re working 30 hours per week or going to school on a full time basis.

I don’t mind hand ups like this. It enables people to get ahead and out of the system rather than other programs that keep them in.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:48 PM
 
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Kids are not poor by choice wake up.
Kids are the sole responsibility of the parents who brought them into the world. If their parents die, call me. Until then, there is no entitlement to steal from others for your bad decision to have one or more children without adequate planning and resources. If you do that, it's on you, along with any misery you bring to your kids.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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I know for a fact that NJ and PA have subsidized childcare. Lower income families pay zero to a portion of childcare depending on their income.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn of other states that do the same.

The parents have to show they’re working 30 hours per week or going to school on a full time basis.

I don’t mind hand ups like this. It enables people to get ahead and out of the system rather than other programs that keep them in.
Fine, you pay for it. Don't assume others who work hard for their money are to be forced to give it up to bad parents who put the cart before the horse. We have to lose this entitlement mentality for people who make self-destructive and stupid decisions.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:59 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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Fine, you pay for it. Don't assume others who work hard for their money are to be forced to give it up to bad parents who put the cart before the horse. We have to lose this entitlement mentality for people who make self-destructive and stupid decisions.
I agree with you. People need to be held accountable. Welfare is going nowhere. Subsidized childcare has strict requirements for work and education. I’ve worked with people utilizing this program. It has great oversight. There are verifications required every three months by way of paystubs and school registrations and transcript records.

I would rather the hand up so people can better themselves. Yes, I’m a conservative. But on another plane. I’m all for pro choice. Others are pro life. Unplanned pregnancy happens. Pro life? Ok. I’d rather you be able to work or attain higher education to get completely off any assistance than be on it for the next 18 years.

I don’t see it as a hand out but a hand up.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:12 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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Don't know if you're dumb enough to believe this or just hoping that other people are.

The "biggest baddest military" in the world helps the US corporate oligarchs **** over people all over the world forcing them into poverty that is MOST CERTAINLY not their choice.

Also, it is your contention that if everyone had not drank, not taken drugs, not made random babies, taken care of business, studied in school, etc, that no one would be poor.

You're failing to make the distinction between "anyone" and "everyone"

Anyone can succeed
Not everyone can succeed.

That's the way our system is set up.

Since the system creates have and have nots, the system needs to support the have nots
I disagree. I think anyone that wants to succeed, can do exactly that. They have to want it and be willing to put in the work required to do it.

The system doesn’t create haves and have nots. People decide if they want to be a have and then do it. The system created the opportunity to be a have or a have not.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I disagree. I think anyone that wants to succeed, can do exactly that. They have to want it and be willing to put in the work required to do it.

The system doesn’t create haves and have nots. People decide if they want to be a have and then do it. The system created the opportunity to be a have or a have not.
You missed the part where Lead said "anyone, can succeed, but everyone can't"

In the big picture, success IS a zero sum game. Someone has to work the crap jobs like McDonald's and WalMart.....
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