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Old 02-21-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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Yeah because heaven forbid you stop receiving welfare.
Who are you talking to? I don't receive welfare. I pay taxes to educate illegals, provide Medicaid, give EBT and food stamps, give subsidized housing, give Obamacare subsidies, etc.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:43 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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If you have insurance you are still socializing the costs.
But there is control within an insurance pool. High risk people should be paying more. Versus a socialist situation where it is open to all, regardless of the risk factors.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Who are you talking to? I don't receive welfare. I pay taxes to educate illegals, provide Medicaid, give EBT and food stamps, give subsidized housing, give Obamacare subsidies, etc.
So why don't you advocate for ending all those schemes?
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Here is what is possible with half a brain and a little focus. Do this, because I’m not paying for your day care. No day care, the kids were raised by loving parents at all times, AND they paid off their mortgage in 5 years. An easier plan might make it 10 years. We need people who make things happen, not vampire off their fellow citizens.

https://www.wptv.com/news/national/c...ys-you-can-too
Marc, they bought the house at a short sale in 2008 and paid off their piddling $100,000 mortgage in 5 years. That does not mean that anyone can do that with half a brain and little focus. In 2008 it was very difficult to beat out investors at short sales, in fact it was impossible unless you had all cash which makes me doubt their story.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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So you don't want to make the sacrifice to move to the exurbs in order to afford children? Taxpayers should chip in for your daycare costs so you can afford to live closer in and still have children?

I wanted to buy a house, but I couldn't afford it in the close-in neighborhood I was renting. My choice was to either continue renting close-in or buy 20 miles out. I chose the latter, even with the godawful commute. So you can make the same type of choice - continue living close-in while childless, or move 20 miles out where you can afford to raise a child.
This is exactly why we have so much dysfunction in families today, so many single parent households and so many kids being raised by grands or other family members. Too many people do not accept that the decision to have children requires sacrifices. There are many things one must give up or change. You cant chose to become a parent, keep your status quo and expect someone else to step up and pick up the slack by sacrificing their resources.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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So why don't you advocate for ending all those schemes?
Again, who do you think you are talking to? I'm very conservative and advocate to revamp our entire entitlement system.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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So you don't want to make the sacrifice to move to the exurbs in order to afford children? Taxpayers should chip in for your daycare costs so you can afford to live closer in and still have children?

I wanted to buy a house, but I couldn't afford it in the close-in neighborhood I was renting. My choice was to either continue renting close-in or buy 20 miles out. I chose the latter, even with the godawful commute. So you can make the same type of choice - continue living close-in while childless, or move 20 miles out where you can afford to raise a child.
I already work over 10 hrs a day, what free time I have outside of that is valuable to me. Would rather spend it with fiance and my dogs than stuck in traffic
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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This is exactly why we have so much dysfunction in families today, so many single parent households and so many kids being raised by grands or other family members. Too many people do not accept that the decision to have children requires sacrifices. There are many things one must give up or change. You cant chose to become a parent, keep your status quo and expect someone else to step up and pick up the slack by sacrificing their resources.
So many of them are not willing to make any sacrifices, that it will affect our population as no one has kids except for the wealthy and poor people.

Of course this is fault of parents and media to raise a generation unwilling to make sacrifices for something as important as having children.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Millennial logic. You all complain that boomers have too much but they did these commutes for years which you refuse to do. Boomers earned what they have.
I'm Gen X (I'm several years older than my fiance)
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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I already work over 10 hrs a day, what free time I have outside of that is valuable to me. Would rather spend it with fiance and my dogs than stuck in traffic
Then be a hipster doggie dad.

Tickin' off all the boxes.
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