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Old 02-22-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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“More heat waves, no snow in the winter… Climate models… over 20 times more precise than the UN IPCC global models. In no other country do we have more precise calculations of climate consequences. They should form the basis for political planning… Temperatures in the wintertime will rise the most… there will be less cold air coming to Central Europe from the east…In the Alps winters will be 2°C warmer already between 2021 and 2050.”

Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, September 2, 2008.

No snow in winter is not a weather prediction ... It was a climate prediction. And it was wrong....
No, it was not wrong, because their prediction was for 2050. In case you weren't aware, we still have a ways to go before it's 2050.
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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No Einstein, when it's a cold wave, it's just a cold wave. When it's a hot wave, it's just a hot wave. NEITHER can be used to say anything about global warming or the lack thereof. The only thing that can be used to say anything about global warming or the lack thereof is to look at long-term temperature changes for the entire planet. Local examples are meaningless.

If the OP's news about a cold wave in Los Angeles and Las Vegas is proof there is no global warming, then my counter-examples about heat waves in Florida, Mexico and the UK are proof there IS global warming. Do you not see how ridiculous that is? And yet the idiots who keep posting these kinds of articles (and I might add that goes for the idiots who post news about hot waves in the summer as "proof" of global warming) are so blinded by their stupidity that it never occurs to them that their examples of a cold or hot wave can be countered by the opposite somewhere else in the world. It took me 5 seconds to do a Google-news search for "heat wave" to illustrate the OP's blindness.
You can buy them books and buy them books, but all they do is et the covers.
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I firmly believe in climate change. The global climate has been changing frequently over millions of years. Yes, it is happening again.
Did mankind cause the present day changes? Can mankind do anything to stop said changes?
The answer, IMO, to both questions: Maybe, maybe not.
The most important question, in my mind, is: IF the results of climate change will be as severe as some claim, WHY is it that no government anywhere on the planet seems to have any interest in adapting to said results? The Netherlands managed to keep the sea at bay for hundreds of years, why it is nothing is being done anywhere in the world (Miami comes to mind) to accomplish the same thing?
Nature says "Adapt or die!"

...and, as we all know, global warming, or no global warming, the oceans have been steadily rising for centuries and there is nothing humans can do to stop this.
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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...and, as we all know, global warming, or no global warming, the oceans have been steadily rising for centuries and there is nothing humans can do to stop this.
The USA could save a ton of money and grief if they would stop subsidizing people who build in low places that flood and on beach front lots.

The city of Houston after Harvey when 5-10% of the place flooded is allowing a subdivision to be constructed on known flood plain.
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No, it was not wrong, because their prediction was for 2050. In case you weren't aware, we still have a ways to go before it's 2050.

That's the new tactic, to make these 'sky-is-falling" predictions further out into the future. In the past, they made their doom and gloom "or else" predictions ten years out. But then ten years would go by and nothing even close to what they predicted came true, so they made another ten year prediction.

When those ten year wild-eyed predictions never came true, they figured they needed to make their predictions thirty to fifty years out. This way they could possibly get the people to agree to allow government control over them, and by the time their wild-eyed predictions were once again proven to be false, they'd already have control over the people and industry, and it would simply be too late to undo it.
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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Australia is having a heatwave. There is a difference between climate and weather.

Australia swelters through record-breaking heatwave.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46886798
It’s summer there. Of course it’s hot.
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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No, it was not wrong, because their prediction was for 2050. In case you weren't aware, we still have a ways to go before it's 2050.
The only dates in the quote reference a range starting in two years, 2021-2050. Is that where you got 2050 from? How convenient you take the furthest year out. So if you think there will be no more snow in the winter starting as soon as two years, I'll for real bet you 10K there will be snow in winter on Earth in 2021.

It is wrong. There's been no trend towards that prediction since it was uttered. You can believe that tripe if you want, but I guarantee you that if your wallet is involved, you won't be quite so convicted.
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How is it 2019 and people still don't know the difference between climate and weather?
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Another bumper sticker that says:
Science to Kansas...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-cl...002628731.html
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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No. When it is cold or hot, it doesn't say anything. AGW has to do with global trends.

I don't care if Antarctica gets to 100 degrees farennheit for a day. Unless it's a trend, it doesn't mean anything.
Your point: —————————->
........Their head:
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