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Old 02-22-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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And being educated by people with an agenda makes you better? No wonder the teachers and professors of colleges and universities are so predominately liberal and leftist.



If you go to college and your professors are socialists or Marxists, odds are you'll come out away believing in Marxist ideology. It does not make Marxism or socialism and more valid over free enterprise, but it does turn you into a useful tool. Man-made global warming is providing everything the Marxist wants, needs and desires, and you cannot see it. Or do you?
Another who should at least take a basic environmental class. Oh, and you don’t know more than the experts no matter how much you think you do.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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And in Florida and Mexico they've been having heat waves. When are you people going to learn?

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/wea...es/2930583002/
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/hea...40-c-in-seven/


We are at the beginning of a 75 solar minimum. The AGW crowd is going to be interesting to observe as the global temps continue to decline over that period.


Not to worry- they will come up with another scam to extract money from those naughty white men. I wonder what it could be this time?


Perhaps you libs should focus on real problems, like chloro-fluro carbons, sulpher dioxide, heavy metals, and the fact that our "recycling" is now having to be burned in the US, as China won't accept it any longer.


Do you have central heat and air?


Do you drive a car?


Use any plastics?


Do you buy food from a grocery store?


Do you use plastic bottles for drinks?


If "yes" to any of the above, you are just another hypocrite. It is easy and convenient to vilify CO2 in order to assuage your guilty conscience and suggest that you are morally a "good person", particularly when those sentiments require you to sacrifice nothing. You and your liberal friends can pat each other on the back and congratulate each other about how moral and ethical you are, all the while polluting the hell out of the planet.


Talk is cheap- actual work is hard. Libs are long on talk and short on results.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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“More heat waves, no snow in the winter… Climate models… over 20 times more precise than the UN IPCC global models. In no other country do we have more precise calculations of climate consequences. They should form the basis for political planning… Temperatures in the wintertime will rise the most… there will be less cold air coming to Central Europe from the east…In the Alps winters will be 2°C warmer already between 2021 and 2050.”

Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, September 2, 2008.
First of all, if you're going to give a quote you need to provide the links, so that we can see what it is that was in the several "..." you included (I just looked up your excerpt and found that the exact same passage is being repeated all over climate denial pages on the web, without any links or attribution at all. Which tells me all you can do is rehash some stuff you saw in an anti-global warming website somewhere). Second, anybody reading what you do have there and thinks they're saying there will be absolutely no snow anywhere in the world in 2050 is letting their imagination run wild. Especially since there is a mysterious "..." right after that passage. Show me the full attribution with a link and we can talk.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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We are at the beginning of a 75 solar minimum. The AGW crowd is going to be interesting to observe as the global temps continue to decline over that period...
Read post #28.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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"Global Warming" doesn'e mean it won't snow, it means climate patterns are shifting radically. The hot air at the North Pole is pushing the cold air southward. You can look to Australia to see what is in store for us in the Northern Hemisphere this summer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46886798
Please let us know what you personally are doing to combat the 'threat' to the planet.


Giving up your car?


Electricity?


Flying on airplanes?


Or do you just want my money to re-distribute as you see fit?
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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First of all, if you're going to give a quote you need to provide the links, so that we can see what it is that was in the several "..." you included (I just looked up your excerpt and found that the exact same passage is being repeated all over climate denial pages on the web, without any links or attribution at all. Which tells me all you can do is rehash some stuff you saw in an anti-global warming website somewhere). Second, anybody reading what you do have there and thinks they're saying there will be absolutely no snow anywhere in the world in 2050 is letting their imagination run wild. Especially since there is a mysterious "..." right after that passage. Show me the full attribution with a link and we can talk.
Here is another website discussing that passage. It is all over the place and has been for years. NOWHERE has anybody ever given a link, nor provided what was omitted in the "..." passages.

https://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/04/...ony-watts.html
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Here's another prediction that Anthony Watts (and a zillion other denier websites) say has failed:
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3. “More heat waves, no snow in the winter… Climate models… over 20 times more precise than the UN IPCC global models. In no other country do we have more precise calculations of climate consequences. They should form the basis for political planning… Temperatures in the wintertime will rise the most… there will be less cold air coming to Central Europe from the east…In the Alps winters will be 2°C warmer already between 2021 and 2050.”
Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, September 2, 2008.
Between 2021 and 2050? How do they know it has failed? Perhaps these deniers have a time machine. Incidentally I did a search of www.mpimet.mpg.de for that quote. I couldn't find it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The deniers have obviously chopped so much out of it to try to squeeze it into a "failed" prediction. Strange they left in the part about 2021 and 2050 though.
Incidentally, since that was (supposedly) written by the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg, Germany, whoever wrote it probably has English as their second language, which would explain the odd placing or usage of the "already."
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: North America
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It's laughable that while the Democrats are alarming us about the world ending in 12 years from being too warm that so much of the country has had cold spells that are once in a generation event.

The plains just had the coldest weather since the 1990s and parts of LA have gotten snow and Las Vegas is getting it multiple times per week.

I find it ironic that after liberals were warning us about the world ending in 12 years due to climate change and global warming that it snows in the city of Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

There is massive concern about this horrendous cold spell causing damage to many plants in California that have been around for decades. Low temperatues down to 23 degrees in Romona which is a suburb of San Diego.

https://patch.com/california/ramona/...onger-95dde08e

https://www.theclimatemobilization.o...ncy-resolution

https://patch.com/california/pasaden...-without-for-a
And it's 88 degrees in Miami.

Google climate v weather.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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First of all, if you're going to give a quote you need to provide the links, so that we can see what it is that was in the several "..." you included (I just looked up your excerpt and found that the exact same passage is being repeated all over climate denial pages on the web, without any links or attribution at all. Which tells me all you can do is rehash some stuff you saw in an anti-global warming website somewhere). Second, anybody reading what you do have there and thinks they're saying there will be absolutely no snow anywhere in the world in 2050 is letting their imagination run wild. Especially since there is a mysterious "..." right after that passage. Show me the full attribution with a link and we can talk.
OK ... Fair enough. I'll see what I can dig up.

BTW, here's the quote at the end of the page from your ALPs link:

BY PACIFIC STANDARD STAFF
Pacific Standard publishes stories that matter, stories that, by virtue of their ideas and craft, are capable of creating a better and more just society. With a methodology that mixes reporting and narrative journalism with peer-reviewed research, we are fiercely committed to covering social and environmental justice.

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This isn't conducive to science reporting. There is a political agenda at work and leftists are trying to use a manufactured climate crisis to implement it. I, and millions of thinkers like me, will NEVER buy into it.

The world is not going to end in 12 years. It's been here for billions of years and it will be here for billions more. If people can't adapt to a changing climate, that's on them. There is no existential threat to the planet from elevated CO2 levels. There just isn't. They've been higher in the past prior to the industrial age, A fact climate catastrophe zealots never seem to internalize. Nobody and I mean Nobody is going to steer me towards global socialism and massive taxation based on a climate catastrophe. Show me a sweet meteor of death hurtling towards earth and I'm all in for a global solution. Until then, peddle that mess to some other sucker. I'm not your guy.

One more thing. Who do you think is going to chronicle failed climate predictions? The people who made them? Please. So I see no need to go find any reference that confirms that it has snowed in the winter every year since the prediction was made and all we have to do is ask people who were alive during that time to confirm it.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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A new study shows 97% of the ocean rise since 2016 can be attributed to liberal tears!

Last edited by Ultor; 02-22-2019 at 10:47 AM..
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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Snow in Vegas and the hills of Los Angeles is not uncommon. Anyone who thinks it's doesn't have experience with those cities.
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