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..a engine blew on landing in Houston on Sunday...same plane that crashed
Looks like the Hysterical Meltdown is contagious -- but we already knew that.
Is it the word "Boeing"??? All Boeing aircraft should be grounded??? Even Leftists (except for Ocasio-Cortez of course) are not demanding all Boeing Aircraft be grounded.
The plane in Houston with the engine problem on landing was a 737-900
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Let's see now - today is March 12, 2019.
First delivered flights were in May of 2017.
Yep ...... that's 6 months by my count.
With 2 incidents. 1 confirmed being Boeing's fault. Your posts are saved for if a 3rd comes down. Imagine you telling someone it's going to be alright on this forum and they get on these planes and die. My hands are blood free.
Again the loss of 2 aircraft out of a small fleet under similar circumstances calls out that there may well be a significant problem. These were both very rare events. So two of them in a brief period calls for caution.
On the other hand the powers that be should move heaven and earth to resolve the matter quickly. Both to get the Boeing aircraft back flying and to make sure it is not more wide spread than the Max 8.
My view after a life of building computerized mechanical equipment is there will be a problem found. May be an interaction between man and machine but it will not turn out to be a random occurrence.
1. The FAA should be the appropriate mechanism to ground an aircraft from service.
2. The NTSB should provide the FAA with the evidence necessary to proclaim a grounding, and;
3. Elected officials should allow the above, 1 and 2, to make the call.
That's my .02 cents worth..
(but of course Federal Agencies ARE deep state, so take that with your brand of politics, lol)
The FAA (in it's infinite wisdom) decided in 2011 that the 737-MAX pilots didn't need to go through Flight Simulator Training on the new software on the MAX.
My .02 cents worth is that Pilots tend to have a God complex - they often feel they know it all and don't need new training on a new aircraft. It's cheaper for Boeing to not do the retraining and the FAA complied.
I'm not saying there were no errors at all .... I'm saying that it's interesting that Foreign Pilots may seriously need the training and it wouldn't hurt for US Pilots to make absolutely sure that they know the new software either.
Feinstein is causing a panic that is probably totally out of line and it's causing a lot of anxiety and harm.
Is there anyone here that actually thinks that Boeing Air is willing to deal with the massive legal problems involved IF they had even a small suspicion of any danger to this aircraft?
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Originally Posted by ambient
Yes.
If you think a large corporation wouldn't make profit-oriented risk/reward tradeoff judgments that lead to decisions to put people at risk, then you just haven't been paying attention. Information asymmetry is in their favor, and if they think things are murky enough to where their legal team's could beat it, they'll absolutely roll with a situation that puts profits over people.
By the way, two brand new jets of the same new class with highly experienced pilots dropping from the sky in close time proximity under similar circumstances should be cause for concern. This is highly unusual. Yes, it could just be coincidence. But the prudent thing to do if we put people first would be to ground until an investigation is completed. But we don't put people first.
Bottom line is always about profits and staying business for Corporations.
On the other hand - planes falling out of the sky and 100's of people dead as a result is NEVER going to be a "profit" glide path. The Lawsuits go into the Multi-Millions and take years of Litigation. Been there, done that with a lot of Depositions. It's heartbreaking.
Let's add to that the Engineers and Line workers making a machine that you believe is deliberately or "for profit" is Killing 100's of people --
You believe those people will just shrug about that. I know differently
I KNOW what the stress of being an Engineer that signs off personally on an aircraft -- even an aircraft that carries the President of the United States.
That Engineer or those who work on any design or execution, carry that burden of that safety DAILY.
The LAST thing they care about is "profit".
The FAA - in their infinite wisdom
Made the decision (for whatever reason) that NEW Software on an Aircraft didn't need new training.
I've see this movie before ...... AND I've seen the Movie about the Pilots that think they know it all and don't need No Stinking New Training.
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