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Old 05-09-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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$10 per hour over 40 hours of work is $400 a week. Then take it that one gets paid every 2 weeks. $800 a check. Then take the taxes into account. Then take into account alot of working people on food stamps are single mothers with kids. And then add in the rent. In order to make enough money to take care of a family of 4 or 5 on a Wal-Mart wage, one would have to work 80-90 per week.
Or work a job that doesn't pay that low. Or don't have kids until you are 21 and married and can afford them. You can't save everyone from making bad decisions and enabling someone doesn't help. Family needs to take care of family. That's what we did before the welfare state and local charities picked up the slack.

That same report found that nearly 45 percent of food stamp recipients were children under the age of 18, which according to NBC News is around 20 million children. At some point in their lives half of U.S. children will be fed with food stamps. It was also found that nine percent of recipients were elderly (over 60-years-old), and 10 percent were non-elderly disabled adults.

and

More than 68% of SNAP participants are in families with children almost 33% are in families with members who are elderly or have disabilities more than 44% are in working families

and

49% of all participant households have children (17 or younger), and 55% of those are single-parent households.

Recently for the first time ever a majority of school aged children are on free or assisted meals. Why aren't the parents using food stamps to feed them? Answer - Why feed your kids when government will. And that's the problem. Enabling so much welfare there is little incentive to get off of it. Since the crash in 2007 population has grown ~9% while food stamp usage is almost 40% higher than 2007.
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I worked at a grocery store in high school and in college and saw plenty of food stamp people. Most of them buy junk food because the price for healthy food is much higher, so their food stamp money doesn't go as far.
A head of lettuce costs ~$1.25, A bag of potato chips costs more than twice that and wont last as long. Boneless chicken breasts are ~$1.80 a lb. It all depends on if someone is actually going to put an effort into eating healthy.

8 ounces of chicken, half a can of green beans and a salad. That's a large amount of healthy food for dinner and it cost me under $2. That includes me splurging on Paul Newman's Balsamic vinaigrette and not the generic brand.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Local grocery chain has 4 cases of soda ( all major brands) on sale for $10, this week. This happens about once a quarter. Consumers stock up. Common to see people with 2 carts of soda in the check out lanes. The local store sells thousands of cases during the sale. SNAP is not prevalent in my neck of the woods.
I know..it's awful. I wish they would tax the bejeezus out of soda to discourage people from drinking it. I have a friend who is a pediatric dentist and he said that that "mountain dew mouth" is reaching near epidemic levels with little kids having multiple extractions of primary teeth before they are 5
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think this is a great idea. Unhealthy foods lead to obesity and lots of other health conditions that affect wellbeing and productivity. It contributes to the cycle of poverty we see. I don’t see how people can be against this.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Let food stamp folks buy what they want. I don't care what they eat. it would be a nightmare to decide what is junk food. I consider most pre-packaged, fast food, and frozen meals junk food! many would disagree.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Let food stamp folks buy what they want. I don't care what they eat. it would be a nightmare to decide what is junk food. I consider anything pre-packaged, frozen, premade junk food! many would disagree.
If the omnipotent State says a lemon is an orange...it's an orange...or else.



But seriously, no love for an army of FDA paper-pushers classifying/reclassifying food depending on 6 million variables?

Don't be so damn lazy!

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Old 05-09-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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I'm not sure why anyone would think giving cash in lieu of a rent voucher to a homeless person would be a great idea, too many have mental health or substance abuse problems, but having worked with single moms who were on welfare I don't think they need to be treated like children, most of them are like any other parent their kids welfare comes first. If children are harmed, or neglected that's a problem for children's protective services -- there is no way to ensure that kids are cared for by micromanaging the benefits their parents receive.
My ex spouse worked with welfare moms for years. A lot of times they still children or barely adults themselves. A lot of them still have a lot to learn and did not get the best parental upbringing.

As it is now you can't buy most prepared or restaurant food with EBT nor alcohol or smokes so we are talking about adding something might help them raise healthier kids. Not to punish the mothers. They will stretch their dollars farther in the month.

But if they are already doing the right thing and cooking healthy food from scratch this won't effect those families much at all.


But if you think handing them cash what can I say. You seem to be more concerned with how you think the moms are perceived than what is best for their kids.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I think this is a great idea. Unhealthy foods lead to obesity and lots of other health conditions that affect wellbeing and productivity. It contributes to the cycle of poverty we see. I don’t see how people can be against this.
Well, armed robbery sticks in my craw. That's numero uno.

Secondly, unhealthy people are less of a burden on the Marxist health care industry.

The State wants you to work (pay taxes), not use services, then die.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Let food stamp folks buy what they want. I don't care what they eat. it would be a nightmare to decide what is junk food. I consider most pre-packaged, fast food, and frozen meals junk food! many would disagree.
USDA has repeatedly expressed the impossibility of retailers attempting to program computers for tens of thousands of products that could change virtually overnight. Not to mention setting standards for what is acceptable and what isn't would be a nightmare and the food industry would do everything they could to alter sweet processed food that so that it just barely meets the standards. And what would happen to the check out lines? Would food producers be required to put a big SNAP label on eligible foods? If not then beneficiaries will likely bring products to the register that aren't eligible.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:36 PM
 
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I know..it's awful. I wish they would tax the bejeezus out of soda to discourage people from drinking it. I have a friend who is a pediatric dentist and he said that that "mountain dew mouth" is reaching near epidemic levels with little kids having multiple extractions of primary teeth before they are 5
So is it that people are stupider? Mountain Dew has been around a long time, why now an epidemic. I used to see a lot more soda and candy commercials before obesity became a big problem.
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