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View Poll Results: Should a presidential candidate alert the FBI to foreign adversaries trying to give them “dirt” on t
Yes 153 81.38%
No 35 18.62%
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Old 06-15-2019, 05:03 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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He's never been of this world. He was spouting how successful his Casinos were when they went broke. He spouted the the Central Park Five were guilty back in the daze. He spouted about Obama not being born here.

I mean....he has absolutely no connection to reality.

When you think about it, here is a person who seems to have two basic choices.....

1. Leave the office at the end of his term....certainly a smart thing to do normally. But, if he does so, chances are he'll be indicted and tried and probably convicted of various things. So he can't do that.

2. Try to retain the office so he can continue to have immunity.....in which case he basically dies in office or relatively soon afterwards (given his DNA and size, diet, age, etc.). If the other party continues to dominate the House, there would probably be endless investigations and probably impeachment hearings.

There is no choice #3. He can't go build Habitat for Humanity houses or relax or do "normal" things.

In effect, he's a caged beast. There is no happy ending except for his passing before he pays the price for many of his actions.

That's my guess anyway...looking at the obvious. Sad, actually...not for him (he certainly doesn't deserve good things after his life), but for the country and the world.
Choice #3 would be having his buddy Vladimir Putin offer him sanctuary in Russia where he can't be extradited back the States.
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Old 06-15-2019, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Southeastern North Carolina
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Lol. True. Probably why he’s never called the FBI before... and never will. Don’t worry. I’m sure they’ll be calling him someday soon though.
Even that's not true. He has called the FBI, when he thought it would benefit himself to do so. You literally cannot believe a word that Trump says.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.6b68e646e57f
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:12 AM
 
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Trump is a Russian asset. Of course he’s going to listen to his handlers.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:47 AM
 
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She isn’t our president so who cares.



But could be, so you should care...but you don't or won't....
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:50 AM
 
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As long as you pay for foreign dirt it's ok, but if you get it for free its bad....
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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Trump is a Russian asset. Of course he’s going to listen to his handlers.
He is a Russian asset that has wreaked havoc upon the Russian economy? A Russian asset that 77% of Germans feels is black mailing them to break their dependence on Russian energy and buy from other sources? A Russian asset that is moving US military assets into Poland against the wishes of Putin?

You do realize that Russia's energy comprises a large part of their economy. Trump is the only US president in decades to actually battle Russia expanding its energy sales deeper into Europe.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-r...es-11552254955

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Did Obama commit treason if listening to foreign sources for dirt is treasonous?

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Actually, what Trump told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos was that he’d consider taking intelligence dirt about a rival from a friendly ally. (Norway was the actual example (Trump) used.)

Sound familiar? That is EXACTLY what the Obama administration did in 2016. It’s something no one in the media or the political space grasped during the tsunami of breathless reaction that followed the interview.

In July 2016, the Obama administration accepted unsolicited information from Alexander Downer, an Australian diplomat who just happened to have helped arrange a $25 million government donation to the Clinton Foundation years before. Downer said that he had witnessed a Trump campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, bragging about some dirt that the Russians supposedly had on Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

Though Downer’s claim was reported two-plus months after the alleged event, and was only hearsay gathered at a London tavern, the Obama administration gave it to the FBI which, in turn, thought it was weighty enough to justify opening a counterintelligence case against the lawfully elected Republican nominee for president.

In other words, the Democratic administration accepted dirt from a foreign friendly and used it to justify investigating its GOP rival.

And then, OMG, they did it again just a few weeks later.

In October 2016, less than three weeks from Election Day, the Obama Justice Department approved a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to spy on the Trump campaign through its former adviser, Carter Page. The primary evidence supporting the warrant? A dossier written by a foreign friendly named Christopher Steele, a retired MI6 intelligence agent from Great Britain. Of course, the Justice Department and the FBI forgot to tell the courts that Steele actually was working on behalf of the Clinton campaign, but that’s a small detail for the purpose of this column.

For the second time in three months, the Obama administration took dirt on Trump from a foreign ally — this time, from one in Europe — and weaponized it for a criminal investigation.

No offense, but the media really are giving Trump way too much credit for the idea he floated on ABC News. The real scandal is that he’s just plagiarizing a playbook already used by Obama, Clinton and those 2016 Democrats.

And every Democrat and media pundit who accuses Trump of treason for considering taking dirt from, say, Norway in 2020 has now, by extension, accused the Obama administration of committing treason in 2016.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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'I think I’d take it': In exclusive interview, Trump says he would listen if foreigners offered dirt on opponents
He is being honest for once (accidentally). Foreign powers play him all the time by feeding him information which is designed to influence him. They do it because they know he listens and reacts to whatever they tell him. This is why he is a danger to the United States.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:02 AM
 
Location: sumter
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What I really would like to know is what can trump do that a Republican supporter will say he's crossed the line? I mean really what! Its an honest question too.
Nothing, absolutely nothing. They will try to rationalize and spin everything he does and say. They don't want to give the Dems and inch, even when they know he is wrong. They have sold their souls long time ago, it's no turning back now for them.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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I missed the Stephanopoulos interview, but saw a few later snippets. At one point GS asks Trump directly about polls that show Trump doing very poorly. These were Trump's own internal polls, but they are widely known. But Trump brazenly said, "Those polls don't exist!" Which is bizarre.

He could have said "It's too early to treat those seriously" or "They are wrong because the sampling was too small" or any other number of excuses. But he chose to blatantly lie. Does he just think his fans will forever ignore reality?

By the way, why was GS standing while Trump was at his desk? That looked so peculiar. Do you think Trump likes to force people to stand because he imagines himself to be king?
To me, the position of Stephanopoulos looked like a prosecutor standing over a witness. Trump looked incredibly weak.

Yes, I’m sure that positioning was Trump’s idiotic choice.

Also, I agree that Trump is living in some sort of alternative reality where all bad and negative things are fake news. He pushes that narrative on his supporters. We see it here, right?
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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What I really would like to know is what can trump do that a Republican supporter will say he's crossed the line? I mean really what! Its an honest question too.
That point doesn’t exist, MrMan. That’s why it’s imperative we vote. Everyone who wants to change what’s happening has to vote in order to get rid of this poison taking over our country.
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