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View Poll Results: Should a presidential candidate alert the FBI to foreign adversaries trying to give them “dirt” on t
Yes 153 81.38%
No 35 18.62%
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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But you know that's not what happened.

The DNC did not hire an American company to HIRE a foreign govt. or someone acting on behalf of a foreign govt.

You either are purposely redirecting the actual statement or just not getting it.

The DNC hired a company that said they would collect information.
The DNC had no idea what the nationality of the consultants that this American firm planned to use for the collection of this information.
At no time has it been suggested, implied, proven that a foreign govt. was behind the information provided in the report.

Trump was asked specifically about a foreign GOVT. contacting him to take down his opponent by providing information.

Trump was not asked about a company contacting him that might have hired someone who is not an American citizen.

It is a HUGE difference.
Hillary hired a foreign spy who paid Russians to dig dirt on Trump.

Amazing you're so ignorant of Steele.

Use a dictionary and answer these questions:

Is Steele a foreigner?

Did Steele spy?

Did Steele pay Russians for information?

Did Steele receive Hillary money?

But that's ok, becaluse Hillary isntlTrump, right?
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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It isn't about Trump's joke.
It is about Trump's statement this week - in light of everything he claims has been a hoax, he admitted that he is open to taking information from a foreign govt.......implying his willingness to work with a foreign govt. to influence an election.

As for your claim about Hillary -- you are using a hypothetical to make your point.
There is no evidence to suggest that money went to Russia.
Hillary oaid Steele.

Steele paid Russians.

The goal was to influence the election.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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No matter your persuasion, liberal or conservative, the posts on this thread focus on the following shared belief.

'I think I’d take it' means:

"I did it in 2016 and clearly got away with it. Why would people think I wouldn't do it all over again?

Russia, if you're listening, I need help in 2020.... lots of help. You know what to do."


As puzzling as it is, the debate is between those who condone what they heard and those who are chilled by it.
LOL. "I'd" is a contraction of "I would" which is future tense. Last time I checked 2016 is not in the future. It's a hypothetical only.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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No matter your persuasion, liberal or conservative, the posts on this thread focus on the following shared belief.

'I think I’d take it' means:

"I did it in 2016 and clearly got away with it. Why would people think I wouldn't do it all over again?

Russia, if you're listening, I need help in 2020.... lots of help. You know what to do."


As puzzling as it is, the debate is between those who condone what they heard and those who are chilled by it.



Whats chilling is, the left has no clue what a sense of humor is....that or takes everyone at the exact words that come out of a person mouth....
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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Hillary hired a foreign spy who paid Russians to dig dirt on Trump.

Amazing you're so ignorant of Steele.

Use a dictionary and answer these questions:

Is Steele a foreigner?

Did Steele spy?

Did Steele pay Russians for information?

Did Steele receive Hillary money?

But that's ok, becaluse Hillary isntlTrump, right?
Even if you want to play that fractured connect the dot game - so yeah okay Clinton is guilty too.

That doesn't stop the fact that the President of the USA admitted he would gladly work with a foreign govt...

He said it.
You can't spin it.

As for Clinton -- that's in Barr's hands. So far no indictments for any Democrat in all of this.
And there probably will never be but it is something that Republicans will claim for years to come.....some Deep State theory that Barr wasn't able to properly do an investigation because of goblins and gremlins or something equally ludicrous.

I have no loyalty to Clinton -- I don't care if she is found guilty and goes to jail.

She's not the President right right now.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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Whats chilling is, the left has no clue what a sense of humor is....that or takes everyone at the exact words that come out of a person mouth....
Trump was not joking when he admitted this week he would work with a foreign govt.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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What if Trump told Putin through a proxy, "This is my last election, I'll have more flexibility after my election."

You leftists would come unglued. Typical hypocrites.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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What if Trump told Putin through a proxy, "This is my last election, I'll have more flexibility after my election."

You leftists would come unglued. Typical hypocrites.
Ya'll actually DID come unglued when PRESIDENT Obama said that. He was actually President at the time - not some reality star television campaigner.

As such - there was nothing wrong with him saying that.

One thing for sure - he didn't stand on the world stage and throw his CIA under the bus while siding with Putin in Helsinki.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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Ya'll actually DID come unglued when PRESIDENT Obama said that. He was actually President at the time - not some reality star television campaigner.

As such - there was nothing wrong with him saying that.

One thing for sure - he didn't stand on the world stage and throw his CIA under the bus while siding with Putin in Helsinki.
So you do realize this was in comparison with what PRESIDENT Trump might do in the future, but hasn't, right? And yes, there is everything wrong with him saying that especially when he lambasted Romney for saying Russia was our greatest geo-political adversary. "The 80's called, they want their foreign policy back", turned out to make Obama look like a dumba-s.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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Ya'll actually DID come unglued when PRESIDENT Obama said that. He was actually President at the time - not some reality star television campaigner.

As such - there was nothing wrong with him saying that.

One thing for sure - he didn't stand on the world stage and throw his CIA under the bus while siding with Putin in Helsinki.
Obama did say that and there is truth in it.

Trump will have more flexibility to work with foreign leaders if he wins in 2020.Soon and definitely next year Trump's ability to work deals, influence the House or Senate -- will be crippled by the election process.

President's in a Presidential election year struggle to get anything done....especially if they don't control the House AND Senate.

Trump has a short window right now to work a deal with China...because of the last election he will ever run next year.

Does that make him some diabolical politician - no -- just reality.
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