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View Poll Results: What say you?
Treason 45 31.69%
Obstruction 71 50.00%
Acceptable 25 17.61%
Not sure 1 0.70%
Voters: 142. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-12-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This is going on in liberal areas and in NJ. Our AG told county sheriffs and local law enforcement not to work with ICE. Is this treason? Obstruction of justice? Or is it acceptable?
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Old 07-12-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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Obstruction of justice.

Which will never be prosecuted anyway.
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Old 07-12-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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Obstruction of justice.

Which will never be prosecuted anyway.
That would seem to apply as would Sedition, which is also rarely prosecuted.

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent towards, or resistance against established authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interest of sedition.

The real question is “should any government official be allowed to hold office after taking an Oath to support and Defend the Laws and Constitution” after they advocate and support braking the LAW?”

I say NO, they should resign. We can prosecute them for braking their Oath of Office, but we should be able to remove them from that office. They work for us and we deserve better.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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It’s following the law.

Immigration enforcement is the job of the feds. Local authorities are not given budget nor power to deal with it.

It becomes an issue only when they start actively warning them of ICE raids and such.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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This has been going on for years where liberal areas tell their officials not to cooperate with federal officials enforcing immigration laws.

Just wait until we have a national gun law that local officials refuse to cooperate on in the red areas.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:26 AM
 
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This has been going on for years where liberal areas tell their officials not to cooperate with federal officials enforcing immigration laws.

Just wait until we have a national gun law that local officials refuse to cooperate on in the red areas.
Like the sheriffs who have indeed been getting praise for ignoring state gun laws?
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I would have to say yes. They are committing crimes with the intention of harming this nation, and American citizens. They are contemptible.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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As of now 50% of the respondents to this poll don't know the definition of treason:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason" (US Code Title 18)

They are not levying war, and immigrants wouldn't exactly be classified as enemies, so the crime is not treason. Obstruction, perhaps.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:47 AM
 
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Like the sheriffs who have indeed been getting praise for ignoring state gun laws?
Please understand I oppose this treason/obstruction.

Local governments serve at the will of the state, much easier for a state to enforce laws that are constitutional than the federal government to enforce interpretative laws on rebellious states.

As I said, just wait until the Democrats make a national gun law and have this tactic turned on them with defiant states.
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:15 AM
 
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Its murder, when some scumbag third worlder isn’t held for ice, gets released, then kills a good US citizen. * these bastard far left *s.
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