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No, they charge ridiculous prices because they have to absorb the cost because so many don't pay their bills. Including illegals, they can go to any ER for treatment and we have to eat it. They basically do have free healthcare already.
They bill ridiculous charges because they can, and it gives the hospitals pricing leverage moving forward. But only the very dumb pay that billed charge.
With Medicaid expansions there are fewer nopayers.
Certain hospitals are inundated with illegals and there are available federal funds to help compensate them.
You must be a conservative because a liberal would not think this way. The liberal would say, well, darn it, it just feels like the right thing to do, to provide everyone with national healthcare.
I'm a liberal and I do have those kinds of thoughts once in a while, especially with that matter of not having a child if you can't afford it. I just understand that I'm not perfect either so if I don't want someone crawling up my ass I shouldn't do it to someone else.
I know I started this thread but for the record I don't think M4A will EVER happen here.
If it did, it would last for two years then be repealed next election cycle.
It's just alarming to me that so many people are for this crap and literally can't do basic math to understand it would never work. That's pretty much the reason for my OP.
If Socialists want to volunteer their money to pay off others' hospital bills, they can knock themselves out.
But of course they won't do that.
Bernie claims to hate the system that made him rich, what a joke.
Since others can't do basic math how about you show your work and tell them where it went wrong?
I'm not a fan of Bernie or his healthcare plan. I'd rather have Medicare for all as a public option, with retention of private and employer-paid insurance.
But I want to point out one thing: Our military budget is ~$700 billion per year. That's $2300 per capita, so the share for a family of 4 is roughly $10,000. Did your jaw drop?
If I'm forced to pay out $10,000, I'd rather it go to healthcare than weapons of war.
Bernie has to start off with such a strong left position so that once it comes to implementing his plan and negotiating with republicans he has more room to make concessions such as making it a public option. Compare this with Obamas original plan and how drastically less of a plan it ended up being. you don't go to the negotiating table by giving your lowest price, you go in with your highest price and slowly chip away from it.
But I want to point out one thing: Our military budget is ~$700 billion per year. That's $2300 per capita, so the share for a family of 4 is roughly $10,000. Did your jaw drop?
If I'm forced to pay out $10,000, I'd rather it go to healthcare than weapons of war.
It's for security, not just weapons of war. It's easy to overlook because we take it for granted.
The average middle class household isn't paying $10,000 in taxes just for defense like they would be for Bernie's M4A plan, though yes, a big chunk of peoples' taxes do go toward defense.
It's for security, not just weapons of war. It's easy to overlook because we take it for granted.
The average middle class household isn't paying $10,000 in taxes just for defense like they would be for Bernie's M4A plan, though yes, a big chunk of peoples' taxes do go toward defense.
What can I say? Freedom isn't free.
Yep, I heard that martians are about to attack. Would you like to increase the current 1 trillion + military spending to perhaps 2 trillion?
Yes healthcare needs to be reformed. Is Medicare for All the answer I don't believe so. People will like it or not the changes that come from healthcare reform.
We need to provide health insurance. Ensure it is accessible and affordable. Cannot shun those in the U.S. who are here undocumented or refugees.
We need a balance approach. A plan that won't close hospital's. That won't cripple Americans spending and cripple the economy. Need solutions.
This is why I’m in favor of a federal sales tax to fund universal healthcare. That way everyone has to contribute.
I think it is the only feasible and fair way to do it.
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