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Old 12-15-2019, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Okay, some of you have convinced me to look again at Bloomberg. But, I stand by my concern that just picking someone who's better than Trump, even if you don't like the person, means that our standards do erode. Just saying it's better than four more years of Trump, so don't worry about it - makes me worry. I think it's a real and scary thing.

And I'm tired of hearing people say I can't afford to have standards and morals. I think we can't afford not to.

The beautiful thing is that I get to vote the way I want to vote. It also concerns me that I feel like I'm walking on eggshells around anyone who has a different viewpoint than me. If I say I disagree sometimes it's like I'm the devil and the friendship is on the line.

People need to get back to realizing that politics is a miniscule part of our lives. The rest is real life like work and friends and family and hobbies, etc. It worries me that people are ready to throw out an entire person just because they don't have that miniscule portion of their lives in common, when they have so much more in common.

I'm worried about us all. I'm weary and worried.

 
Old 12-15-2019, 11:42 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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I've been seeing a lot of campaign ads for Bloomberg. Out of curiosity and if anyone can answer, the ad mentions making the wealthy pay their fair share. Not being one in that category, I have no idea how much that is. Anyone know? Paying one's fair share is pretty vague. Just how much is this fair share he keeps saying they should pay?
 
Old 12-16-2019, 06:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
I'm looking for the California perspective, all political persuasions are welcome btw:

The media says the democratic nomination is now a 3-way race between Biden, Sanders and Warren, separating them into a top tier, but national polls say Kamala Harris is just as electable as they are.


Please respond to the following questions:

1. What CA county are you registered to vote in?

2. What Political Party do you belong to?

3. Please rank the following Democratic Candidates in order of prefence, 1 being your favorite, 4 being your least favorite: Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren

4. What are the 3 most important issues to you?



I'm a 90s, Bill Clinton era Democrat, turned Independent in the 2000s, then back to Democrat around 2013+.



Biden, Biden, Bloomberg. I could not vote for any extremist. Warren looks and sounds miserable, and seems disorganized and chaotic. Harris is a phony. Sanders is an alarmist and not fit for potus.



Most important issues are reversing trump and prosecuting every single ounce of corruption ever done by trump republicans. Second would be the economy, make sure most people have money and are happy (per the Constitution, can pursue the American dream/the pursuit of happiness). Rebuild social status in global politics. I don't mean green stuff as I'm not all about green politics. I don't believe in forcing people to get rid of their gas vehicles or install solar panels, walk to work, ride bikes. Forcing people to do those things is totally stupid and scary, imo. Last but not least would be getting the national debt under control.

Last edited by Jay100; 12-16-2019 at 06:55 AM..
 
Old 12-16-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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I'm worried about us all. I'm weary and worried.
Yeah Snow, me too.
 
Old 12-16-2019, 09:15 AM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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LOL I have to laugh when I keep reading these folks that are obsessed with Trump when they are blind as bats to the corruption and lies of the Clintons, Obama's, Bidens and several on committee of the impeachment group. Don't even get me started on our seriously horrid FBI. We've become a seriously messed up government to say the least, but there are none exempt from it. If you're a politician you're a good part of the mess.
 
Old 12-16-2019, 10:04 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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LOL I have to laugh when I keep reading these folks that are obsessed with Trump when they are blind as bats to the corruption and lies of the Clintons, Obama's, Bidens and several on committee of the impeachment group. Don't even get me started on our seriously horrid FBI. We've become a seriously messed up government to say the least, but there are none exempt from it. If you're a politician you're a good part of the mess.
Don’t know what’s funny to you, but whatever the Clinton’s, Obama’s, Bidens or anyone else may be guilty of doesn’t change what Trump is guilty of.

If you are driving down a freeway at 75 in a 60 zone along with everyone else at the same speed ... and YOU get pulled over by the highway patrol ... are you guilty of speeding?

Didn’t your momma ever tell you “two wrongs don’t make a right”?
 
Old 12-16-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Riverside, California
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Andrew Yang is only 44 and doesn’t show any signs of dementia or Alzheimers, so don’t know where you get that perspective. Maybe you are projecting because Cheeto Face is deranged? Thing is: he’s (Trump) been demented/deranged his entire life.
I am far from a Trumpian. However your response only shows how deluded and bitter the ultra leftist's in this state have become. Thank you!!!
 
Old 12-16-2019, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Riverside, California
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Don’t know what’s funny to you, but whatever the Clinton’s, Obama’s, Bidens or anyone else may be guilty of doesn’t change what Trump is guilty of.

If you are driving down a freeway at 75 in a 60 zone along with everyone else at the same speed ... and YOU get pulled over by the highway patrol ... are you guilty of speeding?

Didn’t your momma ever tell you “two wrongs don’t make a right”?
So exactly what has this inquiry truly revealed about Trump? He's definitely far from Presidential but what have they specifically found to be evident?
 
Old 12-16-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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LOL I have to laugh when I keep reading these folks that are obsessed with Trump when they are blind as bats to the corruption and lies of the Clintons, Obama's, Bidens and several on committee of the impeachment group. Don't even get me started on our seriously horrid FBI. We've become a seriously messed up government to say the least, but there are none exempt from it. If you're a politician you're a good part of the mess.
Hello, it's 2020. Bill Clinton was what, almost 20 years ago? What did Bill Clinton lie about? Having a sex with Lewinsky? Big whoop? What does his sex life have to do with his ability to run the country? That was nothing compared to trump's sex life and his compulsive lying. If telling 1 single lie is the standard that republicans set for impeachment, then, trump must go! Don't like your own rules, then, let somebody else govern.
 
Old 12-16-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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So exactly what has this inquiry truly revealed about Trump? He's definitely far from Presidential but what have they specifically found to be evident?
You can’t be serious ... nope. Spoof post.
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