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Old 10-10-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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But it is not insignificant. My belief is that both employee stealing and shoplifting is going on. Don't forget that both employees and shoplifters come from the same area.
I don’t make broad assumptions, like this.

Shoplifters and employees are capable of commuting relatively great distances. Seems to me shoplifters tend to be substantially mobile.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:59 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That's the mentality of a people who think the world owes them something. (If that's not you great, but don't be acting like it ain't the truth generally speaking.)
Exactly. And that's ANYONE who thinks they're "entitled" to live beyond their means.

Have a minimum wage job? That means you live with roommates, don't have the latest cell phone, don't have cable TV, don't eat out, don't wear designer clothes/shoes, don't crap out kids you can't support, don't drink or abuse drugs, etc.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I don’t make broad assumptions, like this.

Shoplifters and employees are capable of commuting relatively great distances. Seems to me shoplifters tend to be substantially mobile.
Oh, please. You really think a night shift shelf-stocker commutes 75 miles to their job every night? That's daft.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It's probably going out the back door as well as the front.
When cases of high end Kitchen Aid mixers go missing from Kohl’s, they know someone in receiving is working with an outside partner. Most receiving areas of larger stores are under 24/7 surveillance.

Retail Loss Prevention is a fascinating field.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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In this instance, that manager at Kroger is racist IMO.


FWIW I lived in metro Atlanta for nearly 20 years. I've been to that store. Atlanta in particular in a pretty racist area and it was one of the reasons I wanted to leave the metro and FWIW it is not always white against black racism since I know you are sensitive lol. IMO most of the racists in Atlanta were black people who were racist against other black people - they have embraced a white supremacy sort of mindset and they impart it on the black population there. It actually wouldn't surprise me if the manager who made this decision was black.

I'd never shop at that store again. I stopped going to one in the West End in the City of Atlanta (on Ralph David Abernathy Blvd) because once I went there and there were 2 lines open full of people, mostly older black people because it was around 10-11am. There was some even going on at one of the arenas downtown that day and there was a white woman in line in front of me with her 2 daughters. When one of the assistant managers saw her, she opened another line and invited the white woman to come over to buy some sodas and chips they had in their hands. When she opened the line, I got behind the white woman/girls. The assistant manager was super sweet to them and asked where they were going and thanked them for shopping and watched them walk away. Then she turned to me (this was a black woman BTW) and said "this line closed!" And she closed the line. I asked her why she opened it up for the white woman/girls. And she said "because they had somewhere to go." I told her everyone in the dam store has somewhere to go and she only did that to impress the white woman because she was racist against her own people. She got, understandably upset about it. I asked for a manager. She said she was a manager. I told her I could read and it said "asssitant manager" on her vest and for her to get XYZ manager's name (his picture and name was on the wall) so I could speak to him about her horrible, prejudiced customer service to customers who come to that store frequently. She called security on me. I left and wrote to Kroger corporate office (I'm from Ohio BTW and know that Kroger actually does have great corporate customer service - theya re based in Ohio). The corporate office got back to me within 2 days. They gave me a $50 credit for my groceries. I also met with the manager and he fired the woman who did that as they reviewed the tape in the store and verified what I said was true and he apologized to me.

So Kroger as a corporation is not "racist" but they do hire racist people who do stupid s**t at the stores, like cage in black people in certain aisle.

Please note that in your link an officer in that area said that that particular Kroger store has no more theft than any other stores in that area.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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That song goes way back....
Yes it does. I quote it to illustrate the mindset of a certain portion of the POC community in that they think they have no choice but to steal to “get over”.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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In this instance, that manager at Kroger is racist IMO.


FWIW I lived in metro Atlanta for nearly 20 years. I've been to that store. Atlanta in particular in a pretty racist area and it was one of the reasons I wanted to leave the metro and FWIW it is not always white against black racism since I know you are sensitive lol. IMO most of the racists in Atlanta were black people who were racist against other black people - they have embraced a white supremacy sort of mindset and they impart it on the black population there. It actually wouldn't surprise me if the manager who made this decision was black.

I'd never shop at that store again. I stopped going to one in the West End in the City of Atlanta (on Ralph David Abernathy Blvd) because once I went there and there were 2 lines open full of people, mostly older black people because it was around 10-11am. There was some even going on at one of the arenas downtown that day and there was a white woman in line in front of me with her 2 daughters. When one of the assistant managers saw her, she opened another line and invited the white woman to come over to buy some sodas and chips they had in their hands. When she opened the line, I got behind the white woman/girls. The assistant manager was super sweet to them and asked where they were going and thanked them for shopping and watched them walk away. Then she turned to me (this was a black woman BTW) and said "this line closed!" And she closed the line. I asked her why she opened it up for the white woman/girls. And she said "because they had somewhere to go." I told her everyone in the dam store has somewhere to go and she only did that to impress the white woman because she was racist against her own people. She got, understandably upset about it. I asked for a manager. She said she was a manager. I told her I could read and it said "asssitant manager" on her vest and for her to get XYZ manager's name (his picture and name was on the wall) so I could speak to him about her horrible, prejudiced customer service to customers who come to that store frequently. She called security on me. I left and wrote to Kroger corporate office (I'm from Ohio BTW and know that Kroger actually does have great corporate customer service - theya re based in Ohio). The corporate office got back to me within 2 days. They gave me a $50 credit for my groceries. I also met with the manager and he fired the woman who did that as they reviewed the tape in the store and verified what I said was true and he apologized to me.

So Kroger as a corporation is not "racist" but they do hire racist people who do stupid s**t at the stores, like cage in black people in certain aisle.

Please note that in your link an officer in that area said that that particular Kroger store has no more theft than any other stores in that area.
The Manager wasn't even quoted or cited in any way. How is he racist?
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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But it is not insignificant. My belief is that both employee stealing and shoplifting is going on. Don't forget that both employees and shoplifters come from the same area.

Both types of theft are indeed going on. Always have, always will. Supermarkets on average lose between 1-in-100 and 1-in-50 products to theft, and they don't even have the highest theft rates of retailers by type. Those stolen products are worth $20 - $50 Billion annually in the US. It's pretty significant when you consider that the average theft rate mirrors the average profit margin for grocery stores, as a percentage. And who suffers? Both honest consumers and entry-level employees.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Merchants attempting to protect themselves from thieves are not doing an attack its a defense and nothing more offensive to a thief than being called one
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Oh, please. You really think a night shift shelf-stocker commutes 75 miles to their job every night? That's daft.

I know some who live in Kenosha, Wisconsin area who commute 50 + miles to a variety of Costco’s in Illinois and start work at 4:00 AM, 6 hours before opening. They know the receiving area and parking lot are under surveillance.

I also know some who commute daily from Illinois to Wisconsin for annual seasonal work at the Amazon warehouses. Talk about security.

Big businesses like Kroger and Walmart don’t invest in caging products vulnerable to shoplifting unless they know how much unpaid for inventory is moving out the front door.

Professional shoplifters are highly mobile.

I choose to not make racial or ethnic assumptions about people.
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