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Old 12-03-2019, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Sounds to me like a great incentive for more people to put solar panels on their roofs.

They aren't cost effective, and many can not be used to charge vehicle due to the requirements power companies (utilities) put on how the systems are installed. I would love to be off the grid, but regulations don't allow that, so if I just can't power my home just with solar panels. I HAVE to be connected to street power. Also, sometimes it is cloudy here, and DARK so no power is generated. It just isn't practical in many areas due to the intermittent nature of solar power and the COST.

 
Old 12-03-2019, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I think having 1 electric car for local use, and 1 gas car for the 2nd commuter in the family and for long range trips makes the most sense for most families that have 2 cars and live in moderate climate with flat or subtle terrain.

Electric vehicles are not for every person in every situation...yet. By the time electric will be ready (adequate #'s of charging stations that charge in <10 minutes), hydrogen fuel cell cars will be all the rage, and those will replace electric cars/trucks.

My next car will likely be electric, but we'll keep 1 gasoline SUV too for longer trips.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:07 AM
 
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The parking spaces in front of the chargers at both of my Whole Foods locations are almost always empty.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Coastal San Diego
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And the energy used to power the batteries still had to come from someplace.
The juice for my EV comes from my roof solar panels. Free and clean.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Coastal San Diego
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The parking spaces in front of the chargers at both of my Whole Foods locations are almost always empty.
So are the handicap spaces. Maybe we should get rid of both?
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Coastal San Diego
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I think having 1 electric car for local use, and 1 gas car for the 2nd commuter in the family and for long range trips makes the most sense for most families that have 2 cars and live in moderate climate with flat or subtle terrain.
1 EV and 1 ICE (internal combustion engine) car works for us. I really miss my Costco gas station crew. When I gassed up the ICE car last week, they ran over to me. They thought I died.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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1 EV and 1 ICE (internal combustion engine) car works for us. I really miss my Costco gas station crew. When I gassed up the ICE car last week, they ran over to me. They thought I died.

That's a good compromise, but I don't know why you have to make it. What if the ICE car is in the shop, or won't start, and you need to go on a long tri? Do you rent a car? It has happened to me and thankfully I have a second car I just drive on weekends and was able to use that.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The juice for my EV comes from my roof solar panels. Free and clean.


1. You must have some massive solar panels.

2. How much did you pay for the panels and installation?
How many tanks of gas in a fuel efficient car could you have bought with the money you spent on the solar set up? At what point do you "break even" and actually begin to have "free" juice?

3. How do you think the government is going to replace the tax revenue if everyone did what you're doing?.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Earth to 'enviro'-gadget heads: Wishing doesn't make it as practical as liquid fuel.

https://www.infowars.com/video-tesla...tric-vehicles/
It is a disadvantage right now for a Tesla versus a traditional ICE car but I had no problem charging around Seattle during the holidays. I would hope and expect Tesla to address this going forward...they better.

To be fair, Tesla and EV's in general are not the best for long term travel and most likely won't be for many years to come.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm against their subsidies. I'm against digging up millions of miles of surface, and building that many more high tension towers, to increase the size of the transmission lines their cult will need if all their neighbors have one too. I'm against building more area-swallowing generation for those lines based on PV and wind turbines. I'm against their slow return-to-road times as their power sources deplete. I'm against misguided, proactive attempts by a cult to do away with liquid fueled counterparts to EVs.
The efficiency and loss ratio of battery powered cars versus ICE loss means that it's far more efficient to use batteries so this is a better long term solution than burning liquid fuel inside a car and suffering those huge losses. It will mean increasing the grid and changing infrastructure but this is still going to be more efficient in time. It will take decades to completely change but I firmly believe it must be done due to better efficiency.
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