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Old 12-23-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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For you leave out the GW Bush administrations role in creating ISIS and then blame Obama for creating ISIS is dishonest, insanely partisan, an assault on reality, and an assault on history itself.

Al Qaeda in Iraq or the precursor to ISIS was already forming before the first bombs dropped Iraq, after the surge they were down to less than 100 hardcore members when Obama took office. As you may recall the civil war in Syria started out as non sectarian. They moved into Syria and that is where their numbers grew, Obama pulled the troops out of Iraq and they moved back into Iraq shortly after.


There is whole series of poor decisions that were made under both the Bush and Obama administrations.

 
Old 12-23-2019, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Al Qaeda in Iraq or the precursor to ISIS was already forming before the first bombs dropped Iraq, after the surge they were down to less than 100 hardcore members when Obama took office. As you may recall the civil war in Syria started out as non sectarian. They moved into Syria and that is where their numbers grew, Obama pulled the troops out of Iraq and they moved back into Iraq shortly after.


There is whole series of poor decisions that were made under both the Bush and Obama administrations.
Who told you they were don to less than 100
 
Old 12-23-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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Of course they are. That won't stop. The Jewish scriptures hold that Islam will help destroy Europe. So, forces are going to assure that final war comes to pass with as much money as it takes to achieve.
 
Old 12-23-2019, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Boston
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lmao.... we could leave in 3020 and they'd still be fighting after we left. Trump's the only President smart enough to figure that out.
 
Old 12-24-2019, 04:59 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Um the is stands for Islamic states and the article says they’ve abandoned that. So I guess in your mind the confederate states of America is still an effective entity as well???
What are you babbling about? They're picking a new name? Great. Are they going to stop being terrorists? No? Then who cares?

Again, "ISIS" is not defeated. Period.
 
Old 12-25-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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If ISIS is "reorganizing" they are not "defeated".
If you "defeat" an opponent at a game of ping pong it does not mean your opponent vanishes from earth. That opponent is free to challenge you at ping pong again. In no dictionary will the word "defeat" ever be defined as exterminate.
 
Old 12-25-2019, 05:03 PM
 
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Trump gave up the fight, and the obvious is taking place.

ISIS is reorganising in Iraq to become an 'Al Qaeda on steroids' with 'better techniques, and more money'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-steroids.html

ISIS is reorganising in Iraq to become an 'Al Qaeda on steroids' with 'better techniques' and 'a lot more money', intelligence officials warned today.

The militants are said to be posing an increased threat after becoming more skilled and dangerous than Al Qaeda, two years after losing the last of their territory in Iraq.

The group have been buying vehicles, weapons, food supplies and equipment - and now have more technological nous, Kurdish and Western intelligence officials said.
In Iraq? Maybe the Iraqis should be concerned with it since it is on their territory?
 
Old 12-25-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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Trump gave up the fight, and the obvious is taking place.

ISIS is reorganising in Iraq to become an 'Al Qaeda on steroids' with 'better techniques, and more money'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-steroids.html

ISIS is reorganising in Iraq to become an 'Al Qaeda on steroids' with 'better techniques' and 'a lot more money', intelligence officials warned today.

The militants are said to be posing an increased threat after becoming more skilled and dangerous than Al Qaeda, two years after losing the last of their territory in Iraq.

The group have been buying vehicles, weapons, food supplies and equipment - and now have more technological nous, Kurdish and Western intelligence officials said.
You could care less if ISIS gets back together or not.....you are just anti-Trump. But don't worry, if they ever pose a threat of any significance, we'll bomb them to smithereens...
 
Old 12-25-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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Afghans have arrested or surrounded up to 700 ISIS fighters in six months
ISIS in Afghanistan is comprised of the Pakistani Taliban (TTP) which the CIA supported in order to overthrow the government. The involvement of the US was exposed during the case of CIA station chief Raymond Davis. Another name for the group is ISIS Khorasan.
 
Old 12-25-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50850325

A different kind of IS has emerged, he says, which no longer wants to control any territory to avoid being a target. Instead - like their predecessors in al-Qaeda before them - the extremists have gone underground, in Iraq's Hamrin Mountains.

"This is the hub for ISIS [Islamic State group] right now," said Mr Talabany. "It's a long range of mountains, and very difficult for the Iraqi army to control. There are a lot of hide-outs and caves."

He warned that IS would be nourished by the current unrest in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, and would exploit the sense of alienation among their fellow Sunni Muslims - a minority community. In Iraq, this is a familiar and bloody pattern.

"If we have political unrest," he said, "this is Heaven or Christmas come early for ISIS."

The militants are also benefitting from strained relations between Baghdad and the Kurdistan regional government, following a Kurdish independence referendum in 2017.
There is now a vast area of no man's land in northern Iraq between Kurdish Peshmerga security forces and Islamic State 'getting stronger again in Iraq' their Iraqi counterparts. According to Mr Talabany, the only ones patrolling in this area are IS.
Carpet bomb the mountains with bunker buster bombs. Put small tactical nukes into the caves and collapse them.
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