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Old 04-03-2020, 07:56 PM
 
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So Trump orders 3M not to export any 3M masks to Canada, or anywhere else.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...o-retaliation/
Tough guy right? Hoorah, 'Murcia first and all that jazz. Except Trump, of course, doesn't think this out. Where does he think the materials come from, fairy dust?

It comes from a specialist K10S pulp... from a mil in CANADA! By the way, but NO other mill produces it.
https://www.vicnews.com/business/nan...sks-and-gowns/
Not only that, 3M was importing masks it makes in China to the USA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-c...company-2020-4

It's a shame the USA has such an incompetent President. But if supplies from China will need to be diverted, so be it. I wonder if bone spurs affect neuron transmissions?

Last edited by normstad; 04-03-2020 at 08:34 PM..

 
Old 04-03-2020, 08:04 PM
 
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Trump does not want export of masks to Canada during this pandemic to protect american first responders = incompetent president

Trump allows exportation of mask to foreign countries and not protecting american first responders = incompetent president

You TDS has nothing else to complain?
 
Old 04-03-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Not to Central America. Either. 3M is pretty ticked off
 
Old 04-03-2020, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Trump does not want export of masks to Canada during this pandemic to protect american first responders = incompetent president

Trump allows exportation of mask to foreign countries and not protecting american first responders = incompetent president

You TDS has nothing else to complain?

Not a good neighbor - buys out another countries shipment and accepts some from Russia

Last edited by Oldhag1; 04-03-2020 at 08:35 PM.. Reason: Fixed formatting
 
Old 04-03-2020, 08:33 PM
 
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Trump does not want export of masks to Canada during this pandemic to protect american first responders = incompetent president

Trump allows exportation of mask to foreign countries and not protecting american first responders = incompetent president

You TDS has nothing else to complain?
You missed the FACT that the only place 3M can get the material from to manufacture the masks is from Canada? Did you miss that by accident or on purpose
 
Old 04-03-2020, 08:50 PM
 
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You missed the FACT that the only place 3M can get the material from to manufacture the masks is from Canada? Did you miss that by accident or on purpose
It says it is the only manufacture of that pulp, not that grade of pulp is the only grade used in those materials.
I would be shocked if they were the only manufacturer for pulp used in those materials as it is such a global industry and I would highly doubt they are shipping all around the world in the volume that would be needed.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 09:18 PM
 
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It says it is the only manufacture of that pulp, not that grade of pulp is the only grade used in those materials.
I would be shocked if they were the only manufacturer for pulp used in those materials as it is such a global industry and I would highly doubt they are shipping all around the world in the volume that would be needed.
How many parts of the world do you think have western cedar AND a pulp mill that produces K10S pulp? It's a specialty product.

https://www.industryintel.com/public...20face%20masks
 
Old 04-03-2020, 09:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
So Trump orders 3M not to export any 3M masks to Canada, or anywhere else.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...o-retaliation/
Tough guy right? Hoorah, 'Murcia first and all that jazz. Except Trump, of course, doesn't think this out. Where does he think the materials come from, fairy dust?

It comes from a specialist K10S pulp... from a mil in CANADA! By the way, but NO other mill produces it.
https://www.vicnews.com/business/nan...sks-and-gowns/
Not only that, 3M was importing masks it makes in China to the USA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-c...company-2020-4

It's a shame the USA has such an incompetent President. But if supplies from China will need to be diverted, so be it. I wonder if bone spurs affect neuron transmissions?
Get over it.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 09:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
So Trump orders 3M not to export any 3M masks to Canada, or anywhere else.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...o-retaliation/
Tough guy right? Hoorah, 'Murcia first and all that jazz. Except Trump, of course, doesn't think this out. Where does he think the materials come from, fairy dust?

It comes from a specialist K10S pulp... from a mil in CANADA! By the way, but NO other mill produces it.
https://www.vicnews.com/business/nan...sks-and-gowns/
Not only that, 3M was importing masks it makes in China to the USA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-c...company-2020-4

It's a shame the USA has such an incompetent President. But if supplies from China will need to be diverted, so be it. I wonder if bone spurs affect neuron transmissions?

Sorry, it appears you're mistaken about "K10S pulp" as being a necessary ingredient in surgical masks. Masks are made from synthetic materials, not paper.

This is straight from the data sheet of the 3M 1860S, N95 mask. https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...INAL_V4_R5.pdf

Material Composition
• Straps – Braided Polyisoprene
• Staples – Steel
• Nose Clip – Aluminum
• Nose Foam – Polyurethane Foam
• Filter – Polypropylene
• Shell – Polyester
• Coverweb - Polypropylene
• Not made with natural rubber latex
• Approximate weight of product: 0.40 oz.

Here are a few more sources on the construction of masks that all say they're made from Polypropylene and other synthetics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgical_mask
https://utrf.tennessee.edu/informati...ask-materials/
https://www.thomasnet.com/articles/o...asks-are-made/


Maybe the box is made from paper.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 09:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
So Trump orders 3M not to export any 3M masks to Canada, or anywhere else.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...o-retaliation/
Tough guy right? Hoorah, 'Murcia first and all that jazz. Except Trump, of course, doesn't think this out. Where does he think the materials come from, fairy dust?

It comes from a specialist K10S pulp... from a mil in CANADA! By the way, but NO other mill produces it.
https://www.vicnews.com/business/nan...sks-and-gowns/
Not only that, 3M was importing masks it makes in China to the USA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-c...company-2020-4

It's a shame the USA has such an incompetent President. But if supplies from China will need to be diverted, so be it. I wonder if bone spurs affect neuron transmissions?
Blame Trump, it's his fault rah rah rah shis boomba! Thats all you can do everyday without looking at the big picture.

Meanwhile, past administrations catered to globalism and letting every foreign cockroaches filter into our manufacturing.

There are many lessons to be learn from this, one thing is for sure...NEVER we will rely on other countries to supply our critical needs and materials. The revolution will start when this pandemic ends...every rock will be turn to ensure we can make things here ON OUR OWN!

Everyone complains..America first is bad..blah blah...turns out if we only had this strategy along time ago we would have been better off.

But Blame Trump because that's all you got.
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