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Old 04-04-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kdog View Post
The claim was made that in order to make masks, you need the pulp that is specific to this one mill in Canada. That is patently false.

But while we're here, why don't you show us a surgical mask datasheet that says ""cellulose polyester", like you said.
It's only false to the extent that you've said it is; whereas that mill is running overtime to produce it and the stated purpose is for masks, gowns and other PPE.

I'll indulge you: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_...12/K122702.pdf

You're welcome!

YOU said that pulp was not required for masks but yet here's a mill with 320 employees running full tilt to fill a DOUBLING of their normal order from an American company. Something they've never experienced before.

Where do you think the stuff is going if other than the stated purpose?

Now having all but accused the O/P of "lying" then following up by raising the ante with the last post of yours; let's all watch and see what you're made of now>

 
Old 04-04-2020, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Originally Posted by kdog View Post
Sorry, it appears you're mistaken about "K10S pulp" as being a necessary ingredient in surgical masks. Masks are made from synthetic materials, not paper.

This is straight from the data sheet of the 3M 1860S, N95 mask. https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...INAL_V4_R5.pdf

Material Composition
• Straps – Braided Polyisoprene
• Staples – Steel
• Nose Clip – Aluminum
• Nose Foam – Polyurethane Foam
• Filter – Polypropylene
• Shell – Polyester
• Coverweb - Polypropylene
• Not made with natural rubber latex
• Approximate weight of product: 0.40 oz.

Here are a few more sources on the construction of masks that all say they're made from Polypropylene and other synthetics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgical_mask
https://utrf.tennessee.edu/informati...ask-materials/
https://www.thomasnet.com/articles/o...asks-are-made/


Maybe the box is made from paper.
Oh come on now-there you go ruining a perfectly good TDS rant with facts. Meanie!
 
Old 04-04-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Oh come on now-there you go ruining a perfectly good TDS rant with facts. Meanie!
May I refer you to post #69 ?
 
Old 04-04-2020, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
That is how hateful, anti American LEFTISTS refer to their own country. They hate the U.S. because they hate THEMSELVES. Lots of self loathing out there, including the OP. There is counseling available for that.
Thanks Pilot, I knew what it was but the d-bag didn't even spell it right.
 
Old 04-04-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Most likely zero, since you've been unable to name one critical piece of medical gear that's actually made from this PPE that you keep raving about.

And no, other manufacturers of masks don't use PPE, which you would have known if you bothered to read the THREE references I supplied. Here they are again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgical_mask
https://utrf.tennessee.edu/informati...ask-materials/
https://www.thomasnet.com/articles/o...asks-are-made/

So stop backpedaling. You were wrong about surgical masks using paper pulp material from Canada. So unless you have any actual data to share about what you've claimed is a critical resource to fight the pandemic that only Canada can supply to the world, your credibility on this topic is zero.
damn. you just keep spanking him and he just keeps pretending it to see your posts
 
Old 04-04-2020, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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That is how hateful, anti American LEFTISTS refer to their own country. They hate the U.S. because they hate THEMSELVES. Lots of self loathing out there, including the OP. There is counseling available for that.
Are there any new scripts or any thing useful to add to the thread - you know - about the subject itself ?
 
Old 04-04-2020, 05:13 PM
 
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So this is really a non-issue then. And yes, we could find an alternative. That's what we do, come up with novel solutions to problems. That's why China has thousands of agents trying to steal our technology and ideas. We don't just throw up our hands and say "Oh well, Guess we'll have to depend on Canada!". LOL.
You don't get it. The Canadian plant is the ONLY place in the world that makes the specialty pulp. Do you remember why that might be?
 
Old 04-04-2020, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't see the value in airing things like this publicly as he did with GM and now 3M, the public doesn't need to hear this and there is absolutely no value in stirring up fights. Trump needs to bring people together not separate.
 
Old 04-04-2020, 05:54 PM
 
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I don't see the value in airing things like this publicly as he did with GM and now 3M, the public doesn't need to hear this and there is absolutely no value in stirring up fights. Trump needs to bring people together not separate.
That would take leadership. Trump doesn't understand that part. Bullying? Yeah, he's got that down in spades.
 
Old 04-04-2020, 05:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Du Ma View Post
Trump does not want export of masks to Canada during this pandemic to protect american first responders = incompetent president

Trump allows exportation of mask to foreign countries and not protecting american first responders = incompetent president

You TDS has nothing else to complain?
Precisely. Just one more example of the tds pathogen.
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