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Tough guy right? Hoorah, 'Murcia first and all that jazz. Except Trump, of course, doesn't think this out. Where does he think the materials come from, fairy dust?
It comes from a specialist K10S pulp... from a mil in CANADA! By the way, but NO other mill produces it.
It's a shame the USA has such an incompetent President. But if supplies from China will need to be diverted, so be it. I wonder if bone spurs affect neuron transmissions?
You've just discovered the argument against globalism. Sad that it took a pandemic for you to realize it.
When the SHTF, it's every person, or country, for themselves. We're seeing it all over the globe right now. It's not just the Orange Man doing it.
Our leaders should care about our citizens first. We're short on supplies in our own country, and you're railing against him keeping those critically needed supplies here.
You have some soul searching to do, IMO. It seems you're letting politics interfere with basic logic. Let go of the hate, and start thinking about what's really important, to you as an individual as well as for the country as a whole.
You've just discovered the argument against globalism. Sad that it took a pandemic for you to realize it.
When the SHTF, it's every person, or country, for themselves. We're seeing it all over the globe right now. It's not just the Orange Man doing it.
Our leaders should care about our citizens first. We're short on supplies in our own country, and you're railing against him keeping those critically needed supplies here.
You have some soul searching to do, IMO. It seems you're letting politics interfere with basic logic. Let go of the hate, and start thinking about what's really important, to you as an individual as well as for the country as a whole.
You missed the point that the pulp mill in Canada is the ONLY place raw material for PPE is produced. In the world.
Cooperation works both ways. Trump is doing his best for the last 3 years to destroy 70 years of cooperation in the western world. People definitely, and countries increasingly, don't trust the USA anymore. It won't matter if Obama were able to be re-elected, the trust is broken. The view from outside is "a Trump got elected once, how do we know it won't happen again".
COVID-19 will change trade relations. I suspect that we will see many more regional trade and manufacturing situations, as global companies realize that the supply lines that concentrated in one place (China) are fragile, and JIT manufacturing depending on that one source is not reliable. I see centers being established in Europe, Latin America, and Africa.
Mexico will become more important to the USA than it is now. Go to Monterrey and see the huge factories that already feed into the USA. As an example, the vast amount of Oreo cookies consumed in the USA are made in Monterrey. Carrier Air, Johnston Controls, Mattel and many more are located there already, and it is only a two and half hour drive to Laredo, Texas.
I am personally exploring opportunities there, having spent a month in the area. (Yeah, I'm retired, but one an entrepreneur, always an entrepreneur).
Tough guy right? Hoorah, 'Murcia first and all that jazz. Except Trump, of course, doesn't think this out. Where does he think the materials come from, fairy dust?
It comes from a specialist K10S pulp... from a mil in CANADA! By the way, but NO other mill produces it.
It's a shame the USA has such an incompetent President. But if supplies from China will need to be diverted, so be it. I wonder if bone spurs affect neuron transmissions?
To answer both of you, no, the raw material is not available elsewhere.
That being said, it APPEARS that 3M does not use it for their masks, but other manufacturers may, or 3M uses it for other PPE items. Certainly, it is used in other personal protection equipment, and the plant has doubled its production as a result of orders from the USA.
What is the effect on American health providers if the Canadian government were to order that plant to divert to say... China? Which makes masks?
Canada and USA have long had a partnership that has benefited both. Trump has done so many things, this being the latest, that damages that partnership. It is not constructive.
So this is really a non-issue then. And yes, we could find an alternative. That's what we do, come up with novel solutions to problems. That's why China has thousands of agents trying to steal our technology and ideas. We don't just throw up our hands and say "Oh well, Guess we'll have to depend on Canada!". LOL.
You missed the point that the pulp mill in Canada is the ONLY place raw material for PPE is produced. In the world.
Cooperation works both ways. Trump is doing his best for the last 3 years to destroy 70 years of cooperation in the western world. People definitely, and countries increasingly, don't trust the USA anymore. It won't matter if Obama were able to be re-elected, the trust is broken. The view from outside is "a Trump got elected once, how do we know it won't happen again".
COVID-19 will change trade relations. I suspect that we will see many more regional trade and manufacturing situations, as global companies realize that the supply lines that concentrated in one place (China) are fragile, and JIT manufacturing depending on that one source is not reliable. I see centers being established in Europe, Latin America, and Africa.
Mexico will become more important to the USA than it is now. Go to Monterrey and see the huge factories that already feed into the USA. As an example, the vast amount of Oreo cookies consumed in the USA are made in Monterrey. Carrier Air, Johnston Controls, Mattel and many more are located there already, and it is only a two and half hour drive to Laredo, Texas.
I am personally exploring opportunities there, having spent a month in the area. (Yeah, I'm retired, but one an entrepreneur, always an entrepreneur).
Interesting when people today know that the best jobs come through networking ... most have built their careers on it, yet, they tell themselves that they got that 6 figure income all on their very own and the u.s. can sustain itself without the trust and cooperation of other countries ... wow, so much for recognizing we are all on this same blue boat, together.
Interesting when people today know that the best jobs come through networking ... most have built their careers on it, yet, they tell themselves that they got that 6 figure income all on their very own and the u.s. can sustain itself without the trust and cooperation of other countries
I'll assume this was directed at me, since you were agreeing with what the OP said to me.
I said no such thing.
All I said is that the OP shouldn't be complaining that the finished products we're in possession of, and in deep need of, weren't being sent to a foreign country.
I didn't say ANYTHING about the production of those items, or acquiring raw materials, or anything of the sort.
Inference is the biggest problem on the internet, and nowhere can it be found in greater quantities than City-Data, except maybe for twitter..
Trump does not want export of masks to Canada during this pandemic to protect american first responders = incompetent president
Trump allows exportation of mask to foreign countries and not protecting american first responders = incompetent president
You TDS has nothing else to complain?
Fox news idiotic reporting on this has lost my respect for the network. Slamming 3M...you'd think as republicans they'd know how the supply chain works and how interdependent we are on other countries. Pure stupidity.
That is how hateful, anti American LEFTISTS refer to their own country. They hate the U.S. because they hate THEMSELVES. Lots of self loathing out there, including the OP. There is counseling available for that.
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