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Old 05-08-2020, 02:49 PM
 
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If Trump's re-elected, what next for Democrat's?"

They said they were going to move to Canada last time the President was elected. Maybe this time they'll actually do it.

 
Old 05-08-2020, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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No matter which candidate wins in November, the top 1% will win and the bottom 99% will lose. And half of the 99% will feel like they’ve won because “their guy” was elected. They won’t care that “their guy” is bought and paid for by the top 1%, just like the “other guy” is.

That’s how tribalism works, folks. As long as you’re getting screwed by “your guy” and not “their guy,” you feel like you’ve won even though you are losing.

American politics is mainly a sideshow. It’s a WWE match to entertain the idiot masses.

At the end of the day, Big Money owns and runs the country.
Made my day...I'm now energized to return to C-D tomorrow...all is not lost. how many of us are there, and is that enough to get anything done?

Be thinking about how to peacefully flip the tables on the top 1%. The solution must empower all of the 99% equally, and encourage them to engage in a meaningful way. I have some ideas.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Behind two gates and a nice wall
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They must re-imagine their party. I think they need to cast off the radical left, and pivot towards he middle with a strong message of fiscal sanity. The Republicans are exposed right now on spending.
They will just keep moving further and further to the left until they fall off the planet.

And it is not if Trump is re-elected. It is a certainty Trump will be re-elected.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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And it is not if Trump is re-elected. It is a certainty Trump will be re-elected.
LOL. Good luck with that one.

Pandemic + Economic Collapse = Dead in November.

He doesn't stand a chance. And he knows it.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 05:41 PM
 
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They must re-imagine their party. I think they need to cast off the radical left, and pivot towards he middle with a strong message of fiscal sanity. The Republicans are exposed right now on spending.
You don't consider Biden "middle" enough?
 
Old 05-08-2020, 06:02 PM
 
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Sadly, I don’t thing the 99% will come together to get that done. Too much nastiness the last 3-1/2 years. Trump has split this country like a giant earthquake.

Trump is looking into buying his own network (OANN). He will continue his vile rhetoric even if Biden wins. Or should I say, especially if Biden wins.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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They must re-imagine their party. I think they need to cast off the radical left, and pivot towards he middle with a strong message of fiscal sanity. The Republicans are exposed right now on spending.
That strategy would never work.
Fiscal sanity = raise taxes (on the wealthy) to balance the budget as it stands currently. No way the GOP will do that. All too vested in big corporations. It's always cut taxes and whine about the deficit.

Nothing really else in the budget to cut unless you hate national parks, education, science, NIH, etc... The rest of the expenses is funded by specific taxes (FICA), can't touch those. Also no way one want to cut the defense budget, that'll trigger Fox News to start the "leaving America wide open to attack" flame war.

It's not about so much that the Democrats go "too far" left, it's a matter of which issues to go left on and which to go centrist on. Left on healthcare? Yes. Pandemic has shown us already how utterly stupid it is to even tie healthcare to a job and to allow insurance to PROFIT off of it on top of that not being able to INSURE hospitals (the Fed is already paying for treatment, so what's the point of "insurance" again?). I tend to suggest staying somewhat centrist on social issues. Don't try to pull the racism card for everything. But left generally for economic policies. The US has been enacting heavy right leaning economics (socialism for corporations, bootstrap capitalism for everyone else) now for 4 decades, hasn't worked well for most.

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Old 05-09-2020, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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1/3 Hispanics voted for Trump in 2016. That is a huge chunk of vote from the Hispanic community vs democrats which have 90 percent of the black vote.
I reply 19%. 19% of Hispanics are unemployed as of the middle of the April and it could be larger than that now two weeks later Why would 19% of Hispanics vote for him when they don't work. If a third did vote Trump (6.3%) I would imagine some of that to not. Why, everyone knows that minorities are typically an economic laggard when it comes to job creation.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 07:51 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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What's next for the Dems is gaining control of the senate and bringing back proper checks and balances to government. This may not happen until 2022. I wouldn't expect significant changes to their general philosophy, other than a more leftward slide perhaps.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Cali
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If Trump's re-elected, what next for Democrat's?"

They said they were going to move to Canada last time the President was elected. Maybe this time they'll actually do it.
sounds easier than done.


I know this is a shock for the democrats, but Canada doesn't have open border. You can't just pick up your life and relocate to Canada just because.
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