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Old 05-09-2020, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Another round of snowflake crybabies... What happened to the MeToo movement, they went quiet after saying they wanted Biden the Rapist to be president.
Yup, they’ll be the ones protesting now.

 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The lazy wife who stole Michelle's speech, aka plagiarizing? Michelle has a law degree. Melania was born in a European country which exposed her to languages. Doesn't require the effort and years of education a law degree requires. Melania is an immigrant that brought her family, aka the same chain migration her husband constantly complains about. What eight years of Trump will allow is for Democrats to do the exact same thing, i.e.hire family into the White House, politicize every agency to the point of insanity, direct government funds to blue states, hold rallies constantly insulting red state residents, tell red states to declare bankruptcy, just wait until Trump supporters have to eat their own dog food.
Do tell about Michelle's failed Obamacare web site. Or you can deflect and admit defeat. Do you need for me to tell the story again?

Why not do a poll here on "would you rather be married to Melania or Michelle?

Of course, after Melania won, you Libs would cry racism...goes w/o saying, but its becoming a lot like crying wolf.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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You don't consider Biden "middle" enough?
No, Joe's for universal healthcare...single payer...even more socialism. He raised his hand remember?
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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That strategy would never work.
Fiscal sanity = raise taxes (on the wealthy) to balance the budget as it stands currently. No way the GOP will do that. All too vested in big corporations. It's always cut taxes and whine about the deficit.

Nothing really else in the budget to cut unless you hate national parks, education, science, NIH, etc... The rest of the expenses is funded by specific taxes (FICA), can't touch those. Also no way one want to cut the defense budget, that'll trigger Fox News to start the "leaving America wide open to attack" flame war.

It's not about so much that the Democrats go "too far" left, it's a matter of which issues to go left on and which to go centrist on. Left on healthcare? Yes. Pandemic has shown us already how utterly stupid it is to even tie healthcare to a job and to allow insurance to PROFIT off of it on top of that not being able to INSURE hospitals (the Fed is already paying for treatment, so what's the point of "insurance" again?). I tend to suggest staying somewhat centrist on social issues. Don't try to pull the racism card for everything. But left generally for economic policies. The US has been enacting heavy right leaning economics (socialism for corporations, bootstrap capitalism for everyone else) now for 4 decades, hasn't worked well for most.
Interesting post. I agree with tieing healthcare coverage to employment. I've thought that for 30 years.

Too much here for me to tackle now, I'll try to return. Thx for the thought provoking post.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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And what if trump loses? Do you think this ego maniac will just go away? Any luck and he will move to Russia with his lazy wife.
Deflection = concession Please stay on topic, or start another thread.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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As a Bernie supporter. I agree with this. I'm sick of how the Democrats treated Bernie Sanders.
Trump is closer to Bernie than Biden. Welcome aboard!
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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No matter which candidate wins in November, the top 1% will win and the bottom 99% will lose. And half of the 99% will feel like they’ve won because “their guy” was elected. They won’t care that “their guy” is bought and paid for by the top 1%, just like the “other guy” is.

That’s how tribalism works, folks. As long as you’re getting screwed by “your guy” and not “their guy,” you feel like you’ve won even though you are losing.

American politics is mainly a sideshow. It’s a WWE match to entertain the idiot masses.

At the end of the day, Big Money owns and runs the country.
You saved me to live another day. Sadly, we are too few.
 
Old 05-10-2020, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The Democrats will do as they did after the 1972 and 1984, 1988 debacles; look to move to the center. That will leave hard leftists like myself without a political home.
I disagree. The Democrats getting Biden as the challenging party candidate in 2020 is similar to the Republicans getting Romney in 2012. Even if Biden wins, the left will swing more to the left. I mean the right swung to the right not the center due to losing in 2008 and again in 2012 despite the TEA Party wanting it to go to further to the right but they got moderate Republicans. In 2020, despite the base trying to pull the Democratic party to the right, we ended up with Biden because of donors, strategists and "catering to the moderates."
 
Old 05-10-2020, 04:13 AM
 
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Default The question might be, what will America do?

Can we take another 4 years of this insanity?
 
Old 05-10-2020, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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If Trump wins, the Dems response will be even greater than last time. They will take the saying "sore loser" to the next level.

I would expect some violence, and civil disobediance by the hard Left.
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