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Old 06-14-2020, 10:37 AM
 
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Equally? Are you telling us all intoxicated people who attempt escaping DUI charges are shot to death in Georgia?
Yes, all intoxicated people who steal a weapon from a cop and fire it at them will be shot. Didn't imagine I'd have to spell that out.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:37 AM
 
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The shooting of "Thug" Michael Brown a few years ago was also justified.
Doesn't matter. Brown is forever memorialized on murals as a legend, martyr and hero.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Cali
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It seems to me that there is a power struggle and the police want to 'dominate'.

There is a difference in trying to make a community safe and making sure you dominate.

I will say, we don't know the whole story...but based on some of the info. floating around....if this guy was asleep in his car, the biggest threat was if he was in fact drunk and would think about driving. They got him out of the car...that was a good thing. They were talking to him. AT that point all they needed was his keys -- if they were in a battle for his keys and the guy wasn't cooperating. Call the tow truck and impound the vehicle...let the guy sober up before he picks it up.

I know it is a DUI if you are sleeping in your car....but sometimes you make a judgement call.


Sometimes you avoid unneccessary power struggles.

AS I said -- my version is based on what we think we know -- not what we know.
In another word, you don't want cops to enforce DUI law? Maybe you should talk to state legislaturers to amend or abolish DUI law.

I am perfectly OK with that. I hate arresting people for DUI anyway. It's tedious, lot of paperwork and court appearances.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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In the first press conference, the lawyers were practically calling for a riot, I eventually turned it off. Call him an UBER, wth. Racist cops, blah blah blah. I can see the video with my own eyes, the cops were validated. So glad we have social media.
The attorneys also said that there was no field sobriety test.

Not only was a there a field test - they did a breathalizer.

Those attorneys should reimburse Wendy's for what those animals did.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Can anyone answer how far away from a tazer you can be so it doesn't hit you?
Depending on the taser 15 ft is norm.. and if the guy is an an angle, would it have projected far right of the cop? Did the taser HIT the cop??
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Depending on the taser 15 ft is norm.. and if the guy is an an angle, would it have projected far right of the cop? Did the taser HIT the cop??
Yes.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:42 AM
 
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You want to know more? Watch the entire 1 hour plus body cam video. It's public.
Is it out now. I haven't been reading the news.

I found it 44 minutes.

Again -- I stand by my immediate reaction -- in this climate, this guy wasn't a harm to anybody...when he started running for a DUI....you let him go. You have his car (they must have had his license too -- it's the first thing they ask for right?) That's all they needed to be able to charge him, impound his car.

It was not worth shooting him in the back for.

It was wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong....the guy was drunk.

He was not a harm to the community unless he was driving.

And they had his car....let him run.

IF the goal is community safety -- not showing power....let him go.


For the record I don't think he was shot because he was black......BUT it does seem more and more minorities, lower income folks are the victims of police aggressive reaction to petty crimes.

It is an issue.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I don't think anyone in authority cares whether or not it was justified.

"Cop kills Black man" is all the mob needs to hear to start up. And Mayors/Governors are allowing the mobs to rule.
I agree with this.

People need to face some reality, Fatal shootings by police are the rare outcomes of the millions of encounters between police officers and the public.

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Nobody will talk about it.

In this country, white on black crimes sell, if a white cop killed a black man, then this white cop is automatically wrong. Like you said, cop kills a black man, this is the only thing they need to hear to start up.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:44 AM
 
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Equally? Are you telling us all intoxicated people who attempt escaping DUI charges are shot to death in Georgia?
When they resist arrest, fight an officer for his weapon, take his weapon......run, turn around, and fire, weapon.....who`s fault is it?
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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No, they actually aren't.
They're designated "less lethal" weapons by law enforcement, and tasers can kill if the bolts strike a person close to their heart (upper torso), which is why officers train to shoot suspects in the back or lower body with taser guns.
How far was the suspect from the cop when he turned around and aimed the taser at him? An X-26 taser is only effective at a range of 15 feet or less.
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