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Old 06-14-2020, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I understand that it doesn’t exist at the moment. I’m talking about areas that drivers are experiencing higher than normal danger or in the case that a region or city does disband their law enforcement. I did mention there is a lot of ambiguity behind the term “defunding the police”, I am aware there is a lot of misinformation floating around out there.

I do think that anyone who employs these drivers should provide them an incentive to travel to areas that are known to have an increased risk. This may be a moot point though, if these incidents start to cool off. I just don’t agree with callously firing someone who is concerned about their safety in these areas, considering what we have seen happen with drivers in some cities across the country.
If the government fails to establish Justice and insure domestic Tranquility, then the government has failed in upholding its Constitutional duty.

And if the drivers are afraid to do their jobs, they should look into another professions. They have not required police escorts in the past, but for whatever reason they feel they will need them in the future.
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:46 PM
 
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I don’t agree with this. As someone who supports worker’s rights, I don’t agree that someone should be fired if they feel that their safety is at risk,

Sales clerk at a convenience store for example is one of the most dangerous jobs you can have. If you take a job you need to accept the risks that come with it or find another job.


That said in this case it's not just the drivers. The truck is at risk and so is the goods in the truck. This is already a problem in some neighborhoods .
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:48 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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And if the drivers are afraid to do their jobs, they should look into another professions. They have not required police escorts in the past, but for whatever reason they feel they will need them in the future.
Seriously? You are calling truckers cowards? Truckers have put their lives on the line to keep food and supplies coming into every corner of the US through this pandemic. They have had to deal with no truck stops, no showers, no restaurants and all the rest, so everybody can have milk and hamburger and TP and who knows what else, and you are calling them cowards?
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:51 PM
 
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They may not have come out and said it but if you are going to reform police departments you will necessarily need to oppose the unions.
, and it won't stick, w/o being willing to propose the same easier to fire m.o. across all government agencies.
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:51 PM
 
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Seriously? You are calling truckers cowards? Truckers have put their lives on the line to keep food and supplies coming into every corner of the US through this pandemic. They have had to deal with no truck stops, no showers, no restaurants and all the rest, so everybody can have milk and hamburger and TP and who knows what else, and you are calling them cowards?
Your words, not mine. That word does not appear in my post, but it appears twice in yours
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:54 PM
 
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Seriously? You are calling truckers cowards? Truckers have put their lives on the line to keep food and supplies coming into every corner of the US through this pandemic. They have had to deal with no truck stops, no showers, no restaurants and all the rest, so everybody can have milk and hamburger and TP and who knows what else, and you are calling them cowards?
They also think you can hire truck drivers like pizza delivery guys. Not everyone wants to be on the road for weeks on end.
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:56 PM
 
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Not only do they need to worry about Coronavirus but rioters, looters, and killers now. I would not deliver if I were a truck driver nor want family members to either. Next, people in marginalized communities with no transportation will complain about lack of food. The buses and trains will not run either due to fear of arson, assault and murder. The schools that would have opened in September may be permanently shut down in certain parts of town. Regular people will not venture outside their homes and walks in the park, walking the dog, cycling with the kids could become dangerous in some areas. The only solution may be martial law and incarcerating these young vandals who burn, loot, assault and murder. Only when their parents are provided with the bills will anything be done. Burned police station, $60 million, burned school $50 million, 2 metro stations $999 million - property taxes for those who have not yet fled have increased 40%. Amazon may stop delivering as could UPS and the post office. No local food delivery - thugs turn to canibalism to feed themselves - women and children of all ages and older men are the victims. Just trying to predict the future. Thugs turn into killer gangs and an inter-gang war is initiated as the cities descend into chaos. Five people remain - all others have been murdered as thugs turned on each other after everyone else had been decimated.
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Old 06-14-2020, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Can you name one city in US which does not have law enforcement? You can't, since they do not exist.

You need to learn when you are being played.

Can you name one such city, and can you name few trucking companies who are choosing to not delivery to a city (name the city).
Perhaps the trucking companies could hire Social Workers to ride "shotgun" in the dangerous area?
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Old 06-14-2020, 09:07 PM
 
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Sales clerk at a convenience store for example is one of the most dangerous jobs you can have. If you take a job you need to accept the risks that come with it or find another job.


That said in this case it's not just the drivers. The truck is at risk and so is the goods in the truck. This is already a problem in some neighborhoods .
If the police are defunded and or forced to leave their precincts there is no safety for the truck drivers, store keepers, etc. These are not risks that workers need to accept. If the trucks are not hijacked it will be a miracle and the drivers could be killed by thugs. Chances are suppliers and company management would refuse to deliver to areas of violence. Stores may not even be in a position to try to place orders. Add the health and safety as well as public health, gas utilities (arsonists do pose a threat) and chances are the entire area would be shut down and no deliveries, first responders, utilities, etc. would go near the no-go zone.
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Old 06-14-2020, 09:09 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Your words, not mine. That word does not appear in my post, but it appears twice in yours
Lame. I am obviously talking about how brave truckers are, while you are obviously taking about the opposite. Really lame.
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