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Old 05-18-2008, 05:21 AM
 
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I didn't see excellent schools before No Child Left Behind. Teachers just don't like the idea of getting a report card.

My vote goes to the appointment of two excellent supreme court justices.
As a former teacher thats married to a teacher, we agree that report cards are good, when the standards are correct. If all a kid can do is just take a test, thats a whole load of BS. Standards need to be nationalized due to how transient the people of this country are. Schools have been stripped down to just drilling on test questions because thats all the teachers have time to prepare for when theres 30 kids and you're supposed to get them all to score nice and high on a test and because standards vary, you don't know where they are at because of where they're from.

Ah yes the two new supreme court judges.....or should we just say corporate lackeys.

I have yet to see this president do anything well. Maybe increase his own stock portfolio value?
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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As a former teacher thats married to a teacher, we agree that report cards are good, when the standards are correct. If all a kid can do is just take a test, thats a whole load of BS. Standards need to be nationalized due to how transient the people of this country are. Schools have been stripped down to just drilling on test questions because thats all the teachers have time to prepare for when theres 30 kids and you're supposed to get them all to score nice and high on a test and because standards vary, you don't know where they are at because of where they're from.
This is an excellent point. It is easy to point to Iraq and Katrina (Homeland Security) as a couple of his more spectacular blunders, but I agree this might be the issue left from his legacy that in the end causes the most lasting damage to the country.

Bush has destroyed our education system and stifled any creativity or learning that used to take place in a classroom. They are now all cookie cutter test mills to stuff test questions in and out of little Johnny and Janie's minds, so the school gets funding next year and the teachers all keep their jobs. Disgusting. All the teachers that wanted to teach for the right reasons are getting disillusioned and quitting after 2-3 years, and all the dead wood stay on. We won't see the true damage for another decade or two as this generation of kids enter college and are suddenly expected to know how to think.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:12 PM
 
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As a former teacher thats married to a teacher, we agree that report cards are good, when the standards are correct. If all a kid can do is just take a test, thats a whole load of BS. Standards need to be nationalized due to how transient the people of this country are. Schools have been stripped down to just drilling on test questions because thats all the teachers have time to prepare for when theres 30 kids and you're supposed to get them all to score nice and high on a test and because standards vary, you don't know where they are at because of where they're from.

Ah yes the two new supreme court judges.....or should we just say corporate lackeys.

I have yet to see this president do anything well. Maybe increase his own stock portfolio value?
According to another thread poster (reliable source? lol), his net value was decreased significantly, so no, maybe he didn't do that well either.
He's just paying the bar bill now. Maybe dad will bail him out again?

Teacher perspective- have y'all ever sat down with administrators as a group and defined a solution to present to dept of edu? Just curious if it happened at all, or if it went on deaf ears.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:29 PM
 
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Well, he caused the rest of the world to hate the US. I guess that would be a bad thing.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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Well, he caused the rest of the world to hate the US. I guess that would be a bad thing.
You have brought up a legitimate 'accomplishment'. Most of the world hates us now that Bush has 'accomplished' spending $3,000,000,000,000 of middle class tax dollars to kill a million Iraqis, displace another 2 million, and kill and maim thousands of American soldiers, in his illegal war.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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. . . . Most of the world hates us now that Bush has 'accomplished' spending $3,000,000,000,000 of middle class tax dollars to kill a million Iraqis, displace another 2 million, and kill and maim thousands of American soldiers, in his illegal war.
I think you got one right!
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:41 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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1. Sending significant aid to African nations. He's well respected in several countries there.

2. By getting rid of Saddam Hussein, he has assured that Iraquis will not live in the shadow of an insane dictator or his mentally ill blood thirsty sons.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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1. Sending significant aid to African nations. He's well respected in several countries there.
It's just too bad we maxed out the Bank of China card for future donations.

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2. By getting rid of Saddam Hussein, he has assured that Iraquis will not live in the shadow of an insane dictator or his mentally ill blood thirsty sons.
Now we just have to liberate the other dozen or so countries around the world remaining that fit your description and replicate the Soviet methodology of blessing them with our utopian form of government.

Shoot, their oil isn't as sweet or they just don't have any. Oh well, good intentions and all....
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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You have brought up a legitimate 'accomplishment'. Most of the world hates us now that Bush has 'accomplished' spending $3,000,000,000,000 of middle class tax dollars to kill a million Iraqis, displace another 2 million, and kill and maim thousands of American soldiers, in his illegal war.
A million killed? Not quite.

And for the 10th time, it is not an "illegal" war. The 1991 Cease-Fire agreement, signed by Iraq, gave the us legal authority to resume military action if the agreement was broken, which it was.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:50 PM
 
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A million killed? Not quite.

And for the 10th time, it is not an "illegal" war. The 1991 Cease-Fire agreement, signed by Iraq, gave the us legal authority to resume military action if the agreement was broken, which it was.
And they havent spent $3 Trillion on the war either, but that doesnt stop people from just making data up.. (total is around $900 Billion)
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