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Sorry to see you are one of those effected on this "scorecard" , I've only stated what I've seen in my own state. And from many of the replies I've seen in other threads, mine isn't the only state that has done well. Keep in mind, MI had no where to go except up after '07/'08
And the downturn many are suffering has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with a pandemic.
Sorry to see you are one of those effected on this "scorecard" , I've only stated what I've seen in my own state. And from many of the replies I've seen in other threads, mine isn't the only state that has done well. Keep in mind, MI had no where to go except up after '07/'08
And the downturn many are suffering has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with a pandemic.
So you are going back to the 2007-08 for comparison
Talk about moving the goal posts.
Unemployment in Michigan has more than tripled this year. Its nearly 15% unemployment, and you call that great??
It wasn't about moving goal posts, it was about giving your boy some credit. And thanks for posting that link, from what I saw, all the change happened right about the same time...March.
This is all completely off topic, so why don't you start another thread if you want to discuss it. Maybe title it "are you doing better now than you where three and a half years ago ? " , oh wait, I think there is one of those and it seems to lean one way...
I almost feel sorry for Trump supporters. They got their guy in charge, and everything is nosediving, so they scream "this is what happens when you put Dems in change. We need 4 more years of Trump". They have no idea how absurd that sounds.
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Originally Posted by Absolom
Reminder; it's not Republicans out there burning, looting, assaulting people and murdering cops.
Hope that helps.
I've said it before, both parties are different sides of the same coin.
on right leaning forums, we have members that will defend trump no matter what he says/does.
on left leaning forums, you have the people that will hate trump no matter what he says/does.
neither side is going to fix our societal problems. all it's bringing is division and infighting. our country was doomed from the start.
Want your answer. Google how many smash and grab break in's occur of Firearms shops. Michigan alone has many. Add all those firearms that end up on the streets with people that are willing to break firearms laws by doing straw purchases. Theft out of vehicles, which should not be ignored is but a very small percentage.
Most of the firearms recovered Chicago originated in suburban gun stores, two in particular There is no limit on number of firearms or frequent purchases. Dang things keep going missing.
Guns originally acquired in Indiana and Mississippi also have a tendency to land in the hands of bad guys, in Chicago. I don’t get the Mississippi connection
Most of the nation does fine with gun ownership, and so your gun control point is invalidated.
We don't give up free speech or any other right because some people can't handle it. We manage the population instead. We need control of the populations who can't manage weapon ownership.
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