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This is just completely nuts. I'm a gun-totin' registered Republican that actually leans more toward Libertarian/Tea Party...but I think there should be a federal mask mandate. Covid doesn't give a rip about politics. I wear a mask...anybody that doesn't best give me a wide berth.
Zero deaths here in ME? Wrong. Another one just bit the dust, and I don't want to be next.
This isn't about politics, it's about common sense. I'm not seeing much here. Too bad there's no vaccine that confers *that*.
This is just completely nuts. I'm a gun-totin' registered Republican that actually leans more toward Libertarian/Tea Party...but I think there should be a federal mask mandate. Covid doesn't give a rip about politics. I wear a mask...anybody that doesn't best give me a wide berth.
Zero deaths here in ME? Wrong. Another one just bit the dust, and I don't want to be next.
its funny, the tea party started libertarian but then was basically hijacked by conservatives. so its no longer appropriate (and really hasnt since the 2012 primaries, maybe earlier) to link tea party with libertarians.
as far as mask mandates, the government simply doesnt have that right. private businesses do though. my biggest problem is the government telling business they cant operate or putting restrictions on how they can operate. that is giving too much power to government because it gives them the ability to make anyone economically dependent on the government. that isnt a good place to be. the US government may be the most evil entity on planet earth right now. you dont want them to have so much power.
A "federal mask mandate" would almost certainly be unconstitutional
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This is just completely nuts. I'm a gun-totin' registered Republican that actually leans more toward Libertarian/Tea Party...but I think there should be a federal mask mandate. Covid doesn't give a rip about politics. I wear a mask...anybody that doesn't best give me a wide berth.
Can there be a federal mask mandate? It's unclear whether a blanket "federal mask mandate" would be constitutional.
Even Biden seems to feel that the allowable way to use federal power to mandate masking up would be to basically blackmail the states, threatening to withhold funding (as was done in the National Minimum Drinking Age Act and the National Maximum Speed Law -- both threatened partial withholding of highway funds from states which didn't pass the desired restrictive law).
the gov has the entire state locked down till Sept. 3rd, with zero current deaths
Pretty much you're describing Canada, too. but they don't have an election soon.
you might need a new theory. one that supports them too.
Canada has always been very socialist with a very restrictive government, so what difference would it make there??
Here the opposition party has pulled every dirty trick in the book to try and disenfranchise the people and take power.
Yes there is a Wuhan flu. Yes the entire world with the exception of Sweden has bought into it. Does it make it more deadly than any one of 50 flus from MERS to SARS to the Bird flu etc etc etc??? No.
There has to be some other reason for the hysteria, and a power grab by globalist powers makes as much sense as anything else.
There won't be a vaccine for this. Is there a vaccine for the cold? The masks do absolutely nothing. If they worked, why would we have the lockdowns? I hate to be a conspiracist, but there is some reason why so many countries are going nuts over this virus that is not all that deadly. And if it were that deadly, why rule treatments off limits?
The rate of spread is about from 1M contagious people to just 150K new victims each day. THAT is because most folks are wearing masks and social distancing. YOU may say it's doing absolutely nothing - but math says it's keeping the daily spread rate to just .0005% of the population. We you hoping for zero? Are absolutely 100% certain - totally and scientifically positive - with evidence besides your attitude - that removing masks won't change that 0.0005 to .0010? You're not, are you? Because there is no such proof.
It is - by sheer numbers - more deadly - i.e., it killed more people - than those other things. It's that simple. But it's also more prevalent, and quite contagious, and has no natural enemies so far - so the number is only going up.
You have to ask yourself - if someone wanted to "take power" - who would they want to take it from?
Scientists, Doctors, Mathematicians - or conspiracy theorists? 5 months - no success. Hm.
Sweden bought into it plenty, with 5000 deaths. You think those are fake?
Canada may be socialist - but the point is not related to finances. The point is related to them losing $50B in tourist dollars - according to you - just to prove a point. Seems highly unlikely.
John Adams: "A constitution of govt once changed from freedom can never be restored, liberty once lost is lost forever". There is an exception however & that is when things begin anew.
So hence, what this whole preparedness forum boils down to & is made for is this concept.
Please, think re this patriots & preppers & others interested in their longterm self-sufficiency & preparedness -- & of course ultimate survival.
President Adams signed An act respecting quarantines and health laws ... (February 25, 1799). It required the federal government to assist states in the execution of their quarantine and health laws. He, nor Vice President Jefferson, saw enforcement of quarantine and health laws as an infringement on liberty.
This was a strengthening of An Act relative to Quarantine passed during the Washington Administration in 1796 which also required the federal government to assist states in the administration of their quarantine and health laws.
Its true there is no mention of masks, but apparently they had no issues with quarantines. We will never know how he would have felt about masks.
This is just completely nuts. I'm a gun-totin' registered Republican that actually leans more toward Libertarian/Tea Party...but I think there should be a federal mask mandate. Covid doesn't give a rip about politics. I wear a mask...anybody that doesn't best give me a wide berth.
Zero deaths here in ME? Wrong. Another one just bit the dust, and I don't want to be next.
This isn't about politics, it's about common sense. I'm not seeing much here. Too bad there's no vaccine that confers *that*.
Second that.
Mask wearing turned into politics is a denial of reality- either that or a death wish.
Although it's ironic that those who refuse to wear them and could die are right wing voters!!! Way to go Trump- although it's not the first FU he's given to his base!
There won't be a vaccine for this. Is there a vaccine for the cold? The masks do absolutely nothing. If they worked, why would we have the lockdowns??
huh?
Of course there will be a vaccine.
Of course masks work. It's been demonstrated by science- remember science?
We've had lockdowns because idiots don't wear masks or wear them inconsistently.
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A "federal mask mandate" would almost certainly be unconstitutional
