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View Poll Results: Should We Start Focusing on Non-Compliance in these Police Involved Incidents?
Yes 143 89.38%
No 17 10.63%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-25-2020, 12:21 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Does resisting a lawful arrest justify the death penalty administered on the spot?
Doesn't matter one iota if the shooting was justified or not because it could not have happened with proper responsibility and compliance
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Old 08-25-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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Once again we have a police involved shooting in Kenosha, WI where the suspect was ignoring police instructions and being combative. Regardless of the final outcome, if it was justified or not, it would have been 100% avoided if the suspect had followed police instructions.

Why is it that people are not taking any responsibility for what they can do to do their part in making sure these things don't happen. Why aren't people taking responsibility and teaching their kids to respect authority and follow police instructions?

We can't just ignore this problem anymore, if you fight the police there is a huge chance of it ending badly for you, justified or not. But that can be completely avoided if you do the right thing
Absolutely agree. There was a video that went viral a couple months ago lamenting that a young black man is taught not to wear a hoodie and other things. Almost all of them were things that would be good to teach every white kid. When a cop tells you to do something, then do it. Don't cop an attitude, don't act like you're above him. Just do it.
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Old 08-25-2020, 12:42 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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It is not unlawful to resist an unlawful arrest.
We are governed by consent in the USA, not by force.
There was a warrant for his arrest for a sexual assault. It was a legitimate arrest.
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Old 08-25-2020, 02:30 PM
 
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Once again we have a police involved shooting in Kenosha, WI where the suspect was ignoring police instructions and being combative. Regardless of the final outcome, if it was justified or not, it would have been 100% avoided if the suspect had followed police instructions.
I'll tell you my point of view,
I lived for many years in Mid-Missouri where most people where white

I lost count of how many times, I saw white kids, between 15-30 years old
standing up to cops, cursing them out, walking away from them, etc, etc, etc.
But now people tell me that when young black man get shot while doing the same thing
that "it is their fault for not complying"

Do you see why I would never agree with that?
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Old 08-25-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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I'll tell you my point of view,
I lived for many years in Mid-Missouri where most people where white

I lost count of how many times, I saw white kids, between 15-30 years old
standing up to cops, cursing them out, walking away from them, etc, etc, etc.
But now people tell me that when young black man get shot while doing the same thing
that "it is their fault for not complying"

Do you see why I would never agree with that?
This reminds me of what I saw in college. I saw a White guy run from the police. The officer was running after him. The officer didn't even slam him on the ground. He pinned the guy against a car and cuffed him right there. And the officer was no bigger than about 160 lbs. Officer didn't even touch his gun. When I hear "what about compliance", part of me thinks it's meant to apply to Blacks.
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Old 08-25-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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This reminds me of what I saw in college. I saw a White guy run from the police. The officer was running after him. The officer didn't even slam him on the ground. He pinned the guy against a car and cuffed him right there. And the officer was no bigger than about 160 lbs. Officer didn't even touch his gun. When I hear "what about compliance", part of me thinks it's meant to apply to Blacks.
Exactly
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Old 08-25-2020, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island NY
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This reminds me of what I saw in college. I saw a White guy run from the police. The officer was running after him. The officer didn't even slam him on the ground. He pinned the guy against a car and cuffed him right there. And the officer was no bigger than about 160 lbs. Officer didn't even touch his gun. When I hear "what about compliance", part of me thinks it's meant to apply to Blacks.
Did the white guy fight with the police and resist being cuffed? That’s what compliance is. Once you are appended you quit resisting. That 160 lb officer might have shot the white guy if he was being overpowered.
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Old 08-25-2020, 03:28 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by Dopo View Post
I'll tell you my point of view,
I lived for many years in Mid-Missouri where most people where white

I lost count of how many times, I saw white kids, between 15-30 years old
standing up to cops, cursing them out, walking away from them, etc, etc, etc.
But now people tell me that when young black man get shot while doing the same thing
that "it is their fault for not complying"

Do you see why I would never agree with that?
Why is it always about skin color with you? Those people with white skin were just as much in the wrong as the guy with black skin in Kenosha and in Atlanta. Everyone is required to comply with police instructions during a criminal investigation

Take responsibility, be a man.
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Old 08-25-2020, 03:31 PM
 
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Non-compliance is the root cause of these situations in 99.9% of the cases. Some people only want to deal with what happens AFTER the non-compliance, instead of dealing with how complying would have avoided it all.
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Old 08-25-2020, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Should we start focusing on Non compliance in these domestic abuse cases?

If women would just shut up and do what they're told, their husbands wouldn't have to hit them.



Congratulations on the dumbest post of the entire thread.
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