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Old 09-22-2020, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Originally Posted by CrowGirl View Post
In legal jargon the order of precedence means which document has greater weight. So if there are conflicts between the two documents, then the document with precedence controls the question.

However that isn't really the issue since she didn't actually use that word, at least from what the article says - it's just how the article describes it. However, if she views the Bible as being the controlling document to her legal decisions rather than the Constitution, that's a problem. Not because I am opposed to the Bible, but the job of Supreme Court justice is to support and interpret the Constitution, not the Bible or any other religious text.
it's a word used by a biased author. She has said - and even her actual article says - that the rule of law is more important than religion. And if a judge couldn't do that then (per the article summary) they were supposed to recuse themselves.

 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:09 PM
 
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What's funny, is if Biden ends up getting to pick this nominee, then we'll likely end up with a similar discussion, only substitute Allah anywhere you have Jesus or G-d on this current discussion.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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You can't be serious. For a supreme court nominee, that is EXTREMELY troubling.

MUCH more troubling than fraternity boy naughty hijinks allegations, by far.

This is an issue that would make her absolutely unfit to serve as a Supreme Court Justice, if she values the teachings of the Bible over the US Constitution, that would be her job to interpret.
maybe someone who considers themselves an independent would want to reach independent judgement, not just an OP that takes snippets from a clearly biased article, the moment you would click on it..
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:25 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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"Our" fundamental ideas of justice vary greatly because they're entirely subjective and change from person to person.

One of the biggest reasons government was created was to manage individual rights --to prevent someone else's perverted opinion of "justice" from interfering with someone else.

This has nothing to do with the Bible, of course, since the Bible is full of immoral and unethical commands from the tribal war god of Abraham.
But the fundamental ideas of justice and morals are universal and really ancient. That you don't steal, kill others, etc. And that if you do, you will be punished.

I think the point of laws is to keep people from violating each other's freedoms and rights, in other words to limit freedoms and rights in a way everyone can live with, a compromise.

Yes, the Bible and Koran suck
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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What's funny, is if Biden ends up getting to pick this nominee, then we'll likely end up with a similar discussion, only substitute Allah anywhere you have Jesus or G-d on this current discussion.
Why would you say that? Biden is a devout Catholic.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:27 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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What's funny, is if Biden ends up getting to pick this nominee, then we'll likely end up with a similar discussion, only substitute Allah anywhere you have Jesus or G-d on this current discussion.
What are those nonsense claims about? How does Biden have anything to do with Islam, or with China (another popular claim here)?! What is the logic? Pick any topic one knows Americans hate or are afraid of, and then desperately try to associate it with your political opponent?
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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Why would you say that? Biden is a devout Catholic.
Biden a Catholic? He probably considers himself Catholic since his mom took him a few times when he was a child. Supporting Post-Birth abortion is not very Catholic.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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I am not a Trumper but even the story in the link does not match the headline. If this is all the Democrats have on her (and we do not know if she will be the nominee) then she would easily get confirmed.
"par for the course" (maybe even a birdie) for the OP.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Yes I read the article that he/she said she said.
What did she say in context.
What report in the AFJ from the report. "Much of the concern about Barrett’s religious extremism is documented in a report from the Alliance for Justice (AFJ). According to the report, Barrett believes that “judges should be bound by their religious faith, not the law.”
Was it from
“Catholic Judges in Capital Cases.” Where she discusses judges recusing themselves if there be a conflict between their religion and the constitution in capital cases. Did you read that?

So again, specifically can you link quote where SHE said justices should put their religious beliefs before the constitution in deciding cases?
"I will believe what some article writer whose politics match mine tells me she feels rather than what she actually said"
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:38 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Biden a Catholic? He probably considers himself Catholic since his mom took him a few times when he was a child. Supporting Post-Birth abortion is not very Catholic.
What is post-birth abortion?! The term abortion makes no sense once the baby is born. What am I missing here?
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