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Old 09-28-2020, 09:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
Trump supporters don't look to government for gifts, nor to solve their problems. We do it ourselves. Get a grip.
That's contrary to the opinions so oft expressed among you that those who don't pay taxes are nothing but losers freeloading off the gubmnt.

You can't, regardless of Trump's beliefs, have it both ways. Either you're a deadbeat paying no taxes and the veritable raison-de-etre hypocritical Republicans use to refuse to entertain any kind of single payer or universal healthcare system, OR you're a taxpaying member of society doing your share to support the federal republic.

Trump can shut this "fake news" down in a hurry and make his IRS filings public, as he stated he would, along with promising you the moon to get elected.

He lied. His sycophants are surprised; the rest of the world is not.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian View Post
The federal laws and the SCOTUS precedents pertaining to the absolute privacy of tax return information get their teeth from the 4th Amendment.

There are numerous federal laws that bar the release of individual tax information. IRS regs, US Code, SCOTUS precedent, etc. Lots and lots of LAWS against it.

Whoever chose to steal that information from the IRS and then pass that stolen info to the NY Times has committed several felonies. The NY Times, in acquiring information they know was obtained illegally, has committed several felonies.

Here's why even the Trump hater should care - if the law doesn't protect one single citizen, it doesn't protect any citizen. If the 4th Amendment is meaningless for the President, it is meaningless for anyone. If the NY Times can get away with violating laws that protect individual privacy, then the entire concept of individual privacy is meaningless.

YOUR FREAKING INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES are under attack here, whether you realize it or not. Donald Trump, in this case, is just another citizen allegedly afforded individual protection of his liberties under the law. If we do not care about that individual citizen, we do not care about ANY citizen, including you.

Trump is not my concern here. My concern is the casual disregard for individual liberty and civil rights. No faster path to abject tyranny than everyone just being blasé about gross violations of individual rights.
Nobody claimed it came from the IRS. There are people in the private sector who would also have had access to his returns.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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The interesting bit: Whom does he owe?
His debt is largely to wealthy individuals in a country that starts with an "R."
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Oh no!! Now the walls will be closing and bombshells will be landing everywhere!!! Oh the humanity!! It's not even October yet, and the "surprises" are popping up all over.

Nobody will figure out that this happens every time a Republican president (sometimes a demonic too) is up for election or re-election.
It did happen with Hussein Obama and Benghazi, but the crack licking MSM and the demonic party covered for him. It should have sunk his second term. Hussein Obama will pay for Benghazi, in this world or in the afterlife, but he will pay for it.

Oh, back to the taxes. Where was I...oh yes, wall closing in and bombshells
Please explain how the MSM "covered" for Obama during the Benghazi case. Considering that there were TEN investigations led by the GOP in Congress at the time & it was all over the news so how did they "cover" for him?

"A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees."

4 Americans died in Benghazi so in fairness do you want Trump to also pay for the bungling & flat out lying of the COVID-19 Pandemic that has killed 200,000 American souls under his watch?
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:15 AM
 
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NYT is trusted by every legitimate source in the world to protect their anonymity. Because the are the gold standard for confidentiality, they get to see all the good stuff first.
And I'd bet the rent money that that article was lawyered, and sources verified to make their case in court.

Trump loves to sue people.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Originally Posted by Umbria View Post
Lock him up (trump)
Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


{{{{What}}}} Donald is a FAKE when it comes to paying taxes. Who would have known THAT?
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Comedy gold.
Why didn't you include the rest of my post? Did it say something that hit you wrong?

Facts are inconvenient, no...?
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian View Post
The federal laws and the SCOTUS precedents pertaining to the absolute privacy of tax return information get their teeth from the 4th Amendment.

There are numerous federal laws that bar the release of individual tax information. IRS regs, US Code, SCOTUS precedent, etc. Lots and lots of LAWS against it.

Whoever chose to steal that information from the IRS and then pass that stolen info to the NY Times has committed several felonies. The NY Times, in acquiring information they know was obtained illegally, has committed several felonies.

Here's why even the Trump hater should care - if the law doesn't protect one single citizen, it doesn't protect any citizen. If the 4th Amendment is meaningless for the President, it is meaningless for anyone. If the NY Times can get away with violating laws that protect individual privacy, then the entire concept of individual privacy is meaningless.

YOUR FREAKING INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES are under attack here, whether you realize it or not. Donald Trump, in this case, is just another citizen allegedly afforded individual protection of his liberties under the law. If we do not care about that individual citizen, we do not care about ANY citizen, including you.

Trump is not my concern here. My concern is the casual disregard for individual liberty and civil rights. No faster path to abject tyranny than everyone just being blasé about gross violations of individual rights.
So, suddenly the laws matter? Trump breaks every law he can - he's a criminal - lock him up.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:18 AM
 
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Some say.....SCOTUS Justice Kennedy retired abruptly to make way for Trump’s Kavanaugh, Kennedy’s son Justin signed off on Trump’s loans at Deutsche Bank, those loans were backed by Russians, and Justin’s boss Bowers “killed himself”?


Some say....that Trump owing money to banks around the world make him a security risk.....

I don't know enough of the details but folks sure are throwing out all kind sof wild things.

But....really..... don't you all wonder what Eric and Donny Jr. make....seems Ivanka has done well by her Dad...look at that modern woman getting some loving from Daddy -- job, consulting fees, titles.......and those affectionate butt rubs...she's an icon for women everywhere....lol
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post

The interesting bit: Whom does he owe?

That is interesting he has $300 million coming due soon. What are the details of that? Is any of that public?
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