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Old 10-22-2020, 06:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
"That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor

I believe "Google is your friend" is against the TOS.
I guess if I say the sun rises, but I don't give you a link that proves it, you'll dismiss the statement as false? CD logic for ya /FACEPLANT/
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Old 10-22-2020, 06:55 PM
 
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Why isn't everyone in Florida dead yet?

Huh.

Everything is open.

But we're still alive? How is that possible? With town with average pop age of 60+ ....
Well they will be...eventually. The virus can sometimes take up 80 years to kill an infected person
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:18 PM
 
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If this virus is going to pick up speed again it better be swift and take at least half the population with it. I can dream I guess.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:30 AM
 
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Guess what? VERY few people with Covid are terminally ill with something else, e.g. high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, etc. 90% of people over 50 have at least one chronic illness; almost 80% have two or more.
https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/...blems-after-50
OK. So what's your point. MY point was that it is UNhealthy people that are becoming hospitalized or die from the virus. You do understand that there's a difference between "terminal" and "chronic", right?

Now we'll break down the rest of your lies.

Per the CDC:

78% of Americans over the age of 55 have one chronic condition.

47% over the age of 55 have two chronic conditions.

19% over the age of 55 have three chronic conditions.

I think I'll pass on your stats from a website whose main objective is to generate clicks/revenue, and defer to the CDC.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:37 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Interestingly the death rate in the US is not cooperating with this prognosis.

The case rate has been rising since a low of 26,000/day on Sept 7. The death rate has been dropping since Aug 11 and is showing no signs of a reversal.
The 7-day rolling average for deaths has been steadily climbing for a week.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
I was replying to this statement: "Hospitalizations are not "way up"."

Perhaps you'd like to take a look at this:https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-is-increasing
"Hospitalizations have surpassed 34,000, which is significantly below the 50,000-plus numbers posted in late July but an increase from the 31,000 recorded a week ago."

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-ho...5685ac522.html
"Coronavirus hospitalizations are increasing in 39 states, and are at or near their all-time peak in 16. . . The big picture: No state is anywhere near the worst-case situation of not having enough capacity to handle its COVID-19 outbreak. But rising hospitalization rates are a sign that things are getting worse, at a dangerous time, and a reminder that this virus can do serious harm."
The entire point of the original shutdown, SIX MONTHS AGO, was to allow hospitals to get ready for "worst case scenarios". They've had SIX MONTHS to do that. If they haven't, it's on THEM.

By the way, I read the article you linked - nothing more than outrageous predictions by the same folks that have been WRONG all along.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:44 AM
 
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The 7-day rolling average for deaths has been steadily climbing for a week.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Is there something required of the rest of us?
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:47 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Is there something required of the rest of us?
Is there anything required of anyone?

I'm not sure what the point you're trying to make is. I was directly addressing an assertion made earlier in the thread.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Is there something required of the rest of us?
Yes, cower in fear, and vote dEmOcRaT.

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Old 10-23-2020, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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OK. So what's your point. MY point was that it is UNhealthy people that are becoming hospitalized or die from the virus. You do understand that there's a difference between "terminal" and "chronic", right?

Now we'll break down the rest of your lies.

Per the CDC:

78% of Americans over the age of 55 have one chronic condition.

47% over the age of 55 have two chronic conditions.

19% over the age of 55 have three chronic conditions.

I think I'll pass on your stats from a website whose main objective is to generate clicks/revenue, and defer to the CDC.
Good grief. You are both making the same point. Chronic conditions are common.

You could disagree with KA's figures without calling those she used lies, by the way. The sources for the WebMD info include this:

https://www.ncoa.org/news/resources-...%20each%20year.

"Approximately 80% of older [age not specified] adults have at least one chronic disease, and 77% have at least two. Four chronic diseases—heart disease, cancer, stroke, and diabetes—cause almost two-thirds of all deaths each year."

WebMD directed their material to the over 50 age group, so it was not unreasonable to infer that the data are for that age group.
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