Indians cancelled in Cleveland (terror, 2014, Arizona, presidency)

[Hedonism]

Originally Posted by double6's

the 'Cleveland Guardians'..that even just sounds stupid..PC run amok..

It doesn't sound 'baseball' even a little bit.


Cleveland Baseball Team even sounds better.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by GearHeadDave

Right, but you are not promoting a neo-fascist right-wing narrative.

And I don't intend to be part of a neo-fascist right-wing narrative. Maybe I just see life differently. The Cleveland Indians changing their name, I think "why get so upset about that"? I can't understand why. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by robr2

He's tried the sportball ownership thing. IIRC, he wasn't very good at it and brought an entire league down. But at least he got a share of the $3 the USFL got from the NFL in the anti-trust case.

There is that.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by ClaraC

In general, white people are happy being called white people. In the US, anyway. I think it's a term we came up with for ourselves.

Asians, in the US, used to be called "Orientals", in my memory, until they stated they wanted to be called Asians.

Same thing for Black people, although they have changed a couple times what they'd like to be called.

It just would be interesting to hear from them, as a collective, what they'd like to be called.

This is a tricky one ---

Washington Post poll shows Native Americans unbothered by Redskins name

Cleveland's plans to drop 'Indians' from team name is a welcome change but it's long overdue, Native Americans say

‘Native American’ or ‘American Indian’? How to Talk About Indigenous People of America

Native American vs. American Indian: Political correctness dishonors traditional chiefs of old

"One elderly Lakota man from the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation said recently, "If some Indians want to be called Native Americans or Natives, let them be called that, but I was born an Indian and I shall die an Indian.

So if you travel to any Indian reservation out west you will soon discover that nearly all of the indigenous people refer to themselves as "Indian," especially the elders who are still fluent in their Indian language. As Chief Oliver Red Cloud said a few years before he died, "I am Lakota and I am Indian.""

Maybe if we removed labels and just called everyone human beings, we could dispense with all the niceties and get down to the business of just being us? Just a thought ...

[8won6]

Originally Posted by Hedonism

Wait'll they come for you ...

i'm a black american they already come for us.

yall in here crying about a baseball team name.

[Mathguy]

Why the Cleveland Guardians?

Was the Cleveland Tire Fire taken?

The Cleveland Drive Bys?

Cleveland Cleft Pallets?

Cleveland Beaver Cleavers?

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by Hedonism

Wait'll they come for you ...

Originally Posted by 8won6

i'm a black american they already come for us.

yall in here crying about a baseball team name.

It's a slow season ...

[elan]

I just watched natives at a Rodeo in Wyoming, they all referred to themselves as Indians. Same with some of my relatives in New Mexico, the word Indian isn't a big no no to them either.

[Scooby Snacks]

Let's not forget Asian Indians are called Indians too. I'm Indian and in no mood to be called a Guardian. I was quite happy with the Cleveland Indians (until they beat the Astros, that is.)

[RcHydro]

Originally Posted by northofnowhere

George Carlin once said political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners.

Call it whatever you like. Its just more of the wokeness movement spilling over into everything now.