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Old 12-29-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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If you didn't get the answer from what you just responded to, then you are too far gone to reason with
I take that you don’t have any explanation. It doesn’t surprise me as you didn’t even graduate from the school.
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Old 12-29-2020, 12:41 PM
 
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Sure. Let’s continue. I would think rely on voluntary charity is also an option.
Let me scratch voluntary charity off the list as it has no difference from being beggar.

So, out of these 3 options we can safely reduce them to really only 2 options:

1) Work for someone else.
2) Rely on parents.

The reason for reduction is very simple - to start a business you need at least some money, as I said before, to have at least clothes to put on. And to get these starting money for a business the person should either get them from work for someone else or from parents.

Are we in agreement so far?
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Old 12-29-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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Let me scratch voluntary charity off the list as it has no difference from being beggar.

So, out of these 3 options we can safely reduce them to really only 2 options:

1) Work for someone else.
2) Rely on parents.

The reason for reduction is very simple - to start a business you need at least some money, as I said before, to have at least clothes to put on. And to get these starting money for a business the person should either get them from work for someone else or from parents.

Are we in agreement so far?
Starting a business and working for someone else are the same thing.

Most of the businesses today start with little money from the original founders - think Steve Jobs etc.

Rely on voluntary charity is an option, especially half of the country just promised other people’s money as “charity.”
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Old 12-29-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I take that you don’t have any explanation. It doesn’t surprise me as you didn’t even graduate from the school.
You made that up, I already said that I did graduate from high school.

And I did explain it. If everyone paid the same dollar amount in taxes, over half of families would owe more in taxes than they earn from their jobs. That's not a feasible situation
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:33 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'm still waiting for a logical argument as to why the system enslaves us.

Nothing yet posted has done that
The system doesn't really enslave us. Uncontrolled human nature/desire, etc enslave us which binds us to the system.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:39 PM
 
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I thought she immigrated here from Canada?
Tell us more.

Another user once said In her old post it was mentioned she was fromchina.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:41 PM
 
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You made that up, I already said that I did graduate from high school.

And I did explain it. If everyone paid the same dollar amount in taxes, over half of families would owe more in taxes than they earn from their jobs. That's not a feasible situation
If that’s the case, what’s their contribution to the society?

As I said before, everybody should pay the same amount of income, estate, and property taxes and that number is ZERO.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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The system doesn't really enslave us. Uncontrolled human nature/desire, etc enslave us which binds us to the system.
Nobody can enslave others without the help of the government.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:59 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Nobody can enslave others without the help of the government.
The government doesn't force people to participate in unnecessary consumerism, in un-healthy eating lifestyles, improper money management, etc. The government is not your momma or papa nor a friend.

There is a responsibility in the individual in not becoming dependent as dependency can lead to slavery. Look at the people that are doing a FIRE lifestyle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOP2...CBSThisMorning
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Old 12-29-2020, 02:03 PM
 
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The government doesn't force people to participate in unnecessary consumerism, in un-healthy eating lifestyles, improper money management, etc. The government is not your momma or papa nor a friend.

There is a responsibility in the individual in not becoming dependent as dependency can lead to slavery. Look at the people that are doing a FIRE lifestyle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOP2...CBSThisMorning
Correct but in a democratic country, some people enslave others via the power of the government they elect.
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