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Old 12-29-2020, 09:01 AM
 
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That is because the deeply-rooted envy.

Most people care about inequity not scarcity. They would rather share the misery of being equally poor than having a little more money and seeing a few make more money than them.

This is the key to understand almost all our problems.
This is what I meant by you attempting to force other folks down into your cramped & convoluted rabbit hole. There's barely enough room for you alone there.

Besides that, there IS no there there.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Your position is unconscionable
No, it isn't. Voluntary charity is not unconscionable. Added plus is that it lets society vote with their wallets. If society actually values artificially financially supporting the poor, they will voluntarily donate some of the fruits of their labor to do so.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:05 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Therefore, people must be forced to do what they don’t want to do voluntarily?

If people don’t want to voluntarily fund your causes, haven’t they already spoken?
Yes.

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As soon as you whip out your guns, you have lost your supposed moral high ground.
Exactly.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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That is correct.

You didn’t graduate. Stop lying.
I actually did. I didn't go to college, but I graduated high school. You obviously have no idea how much money it takes to run our government if you think that everyone could pay the same nominal dollar amount in taxes
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:07 AM
 
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I already answered a number of times.

Your predicament is a discussion you should have with your parents. Why did they bring you into this world where you can’t grow your own food?
You didn't answer even a single time. That is understandable, since honest answer will show that you are wrong, and you know that.

We are not talking about parents or anything else at this moment.
We are discussing your use of "voluntarily" word.

So, I'll repeat the question again:

Is going to gather or grow food a "voluntarily" option for someone, provided that all land already belongs to somebody else? Yes or no?
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:08 AM
 
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This is what I meant by you attempting to force other folks down into your cramped & convoluted rabbit hole. There's barely enough room for you alone there.

Besides that, there IS no there there.
Where is the “force” part in my statement? The only force being applied is those who don’t pay taxes forcing others to pay for their expenses.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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You didn't answer even a single time. That is understandable, since honest answer will show that you are wrong, and you know that.

We are not talking about parents or anything else at this moment.
We are discussing your use of "voluntarily" word.

So, I'll repeat the question again:

Is going to gather or grow food a "voluntarily" option for someone, provided that all land already belongs to somebody else? Yes or no?
Yes, if it is on your land.

No, if it’s on other people’s land.

Did you come to this would voluntarily? If you don’t talk to the people who bring you into this world, who else should be held accountable for your predicament?
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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I advocate freedom and non-violence. Please explain to me which one would get people killed?

You advocate socialism and communism aka slavery. It has been proven that hundreds of millions were dead because of your evil ideology.

You openly advocate rape and murder but you have the audacity to lecture me? Go to hell!
I advocate removing the wealthy from our government that promote Crony Capitalism.
They strong armed themselves into those positions against others freedoms.
What you promote are Hitler Style tactics that would love to see billions in the world die off.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:13 AM
 
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I actually did. I didn't go to college, but I graduated high school. You obviously have no idea how much money it takes to run our government if you think that everyone could pay the same nominal dollar amount in taxes
Everybody should pay the same amount of income, estate, and property taxes.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:15 AM
 
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I advocate removing the wealthy from our government that promote Crony Capitalism.
What you promote are Hitler Style tactics that would love to see billions in the world die off.
You advocate rape and murder!

I am done talking to scum like you.
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