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The way you avoid having pendulum swing right past full equality and flying into discrimination against the other side is to stop and think. If take the words, "Lives Matter" and have to stick a race at the front of that statement, you're being a racist. If you need to categorize people to make a point, you're doing it wrong.
Lol. No disrespect but your analogy is weak because it/you assume that these things have an equal footing. There isn't any context to your "race reversal" vocal exercise. Let's take your black/white empowerment exercise (oh snap, I put black first! I'm racist now) and look into it. One pales in comparison to the other. Do you deny this? When we look into the history of this thing we can see how and why "We need to promote black businesses." I have no problem with promoting white businesses but it isn't necessary because white business are in this country is okay. I can keep going but your exercise is pseudo profundity. The pendulum has to swing but it won't be nearly as fervant, brutal, and persistent as the things that I read about.
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There tends to be a world where black kids grow up being fed a whole lot of racist propaganda. They're brainwashed into believing that the greater majority of white people want to stop them from ever being successful. From the rhetoric, you'd think that every white person spends hours of their day conspiring to ruin the lives of black people.
I don't know about that. I think it more of a longing of a lot of AA folks to search out others who bucked the narrative. You go from "Wow, I didn't know that" to "How come that wasn't in the history books?" I'll spare you the fluff and get to the point, the more that these kids learn about "the experience" in this country the more we learn about the interactions with European Americans....some good and some not so good (we both know). Speaking of rhetoric, again, our history-experience shows yours too....there's a ish ton Euro-American rhetoric that's still alive, well, and on the clock today. No need to feel guilty, not all Euro Americans think like maga people.
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The reality is that, thanks to massive white guilt, if anything white people are constantly trying to figure out how to improve the lives of black people. The greater majority of white people are at minimum passively in support of programs to help lift black people out of poverty. White European folk are actively disadvantaging themselves and the future prospects of their children in their efforts to help blacks improve their circumstances and prosper.
So when you have black people throwing, "White people oppressing me!!" in your face, it just seems ridiculous and a complete contradiction to reality. Still, the white guilt folks will fall all over themselves trying to stamp out any hint of oppression, imagined or real, that they can see. It seems to do more harm than good TBH.
Yes there are a tiny fraction of white people who want to repress and disadvantage black people. They have no institutional power and are complete outcasts. Pretty much everyone hates them and nobody has any intention of implementing their ideas.
I don't know, I guess that's how you see it. This entire thread OP seems to employ willed ignorance. I really wouldn't say that a ton of (so called) white people are responsible for the oppression as a whole. I guess that this American caste system was created and AA's did a lot to ensure that my group stay close to the bottom. I'm definitely not tripping because there are some unbelievable legal barriers, propaganda, massacres, etc that that either made it tough as hell or see us stay broke when a massacre happened (I'm thinking of Black Wall Street victims just being left to fend for themselves after losing everything). These things won't be undone in one generation, especially when there are people alive who lived through the decades when these barriers were in place. We're past the point of what should happen to remedy things. One solution is to just leave us alone and stop trying to make it seem like we're wrong whenever you hear a "Black Lives Matter" (nobody is alluding to your life not mattering, it doesn't have anything to do with you), HBCU, or Black History month, etc. Also, as much as Euro Americans (the maga ones) like to brag about their IQ, I would automatically deem you remedial if you're asking why there's know NAAWP, White Panther, or Wet. I mean, damn (lol).
I'm glad you wrote this post. Sometimes I have wondered if there are a lot of African-Americans who really do believe that there's some sinister cabal of hyper-powerful white people who regularly meet to plan how to make life for blacks worse.
Whites in this country have watched, since 1965, millions of immigrants from Pakistan, India, South Korea, China, and other nonwhite nations come here in droves. Suburbs of Atlanta and of Dallas have some areas where for examples whites are the minority and where people like Asian Indians are 40% of some schools.
In practically every major U.S. city, there are tons of restaurants owned and operated by immigrants who sell dishes of cuisines far different from American cuisine. In this day and age, to be "hip" and "cool" is to know how to enjoy sushi, Korean BBQ, Chinese hot pot and dim sum, tikka masala, pho, and other dishes.
There are minorities from these countries outperforming whites in schools and outearning them in the office/cliniclab.
About 1 million legal immigrants relocate to America every year.
The majority of whites is not up in arms about this; many welcome it; many seem unaware; many seem not to care.
I have written on C-D that critical race theory has created millions of young people who are filled to the brim with racial resentment. They believe as they become adults that their failures to achieve whatever their standards of success are stem directly and strictly from obstacles and barriers imposed on them by white people. They therefore take that misguided idea and nurture it, resulting in a lot of hatred. And in some cases, some of these young people act out, and they harm if not kill white people who did nothing to them.
It's true that the U.S. had slavery, lynchings, the Klan, and Jim Crow. But it is also true the U.S. has gone out of its way to face to these evils and to take measures to compensate. Black (and Hispanic) high school seniors get into many colleges with lower exam scores and GPAs than many white and Asian kids do - this is affirmative action.
Black History Month has never caught my attention. It's been around since 1976 - I've therefore gone through it dozens of times, and I never cared much for it but I also never opposed it or resented it or hated it or thought it was unwise.
It is also true that equality does not mean treating another group better. If a group gets better treatment, that's discrimination. Whites were once the recipients of that.
Yes to all of this. White nations have done more than any other nations to bend over backwards to destroy their own countries to bring in waves of non-whites. Similarly we in the North allowed Southern Deep South black "refugees" flow into our northern cities and states to cross picket lines and take jobs and then we give them generous welfare.
And then the second these people get here, they tell us we are trash.
My Minnesota is 85% white, 15% non-white. And the 15% use up 50% of ALL welfare in this state. Yeah, all that racism and all that.
Yeah, that's not going to cause hatred and division at all.
I don't support the BLM MOVEMENT, but I do support the HASHTAG. Regarding Black Entertainment Television. Why are we still on this. You do realize that many blacks don't even like the channel. It's been a pretty crappy channel for years now. We'd rather TVOne.
Organizations which use the word "black" in their name are promoting a type of prejudice and discrimination against whites. Imagine the reaction if someone started a group White Lives Matter or a cable network called White Entertainment Television. How about a national organization names the National Association For The Advancement of White People.
White Lives Matter WAS created, and yet very few black people gave WLM any thought. It really doesn't come up in our conversations. WET? Sounds like a porn channel but have at it. What would it be? Reruns of sitcoms from just about every other channel? Racist? Nah. Redundant? Yes.
White Lives Matter WAS created, and yet very few black people gave WLM any thought. It really doesn't come up in our conversations. WET? Sounds like a porn channel but have at it. What would it be? Reruns of sitcoms from just about every other channel? Racist? Nah. Redundant? Yes.
Good post. I guess Euro-Americans can check certain things off of their "What if Whites had __" list.
This PaOC section of C-D is very strange. Folks don't do simple searches but asks simple questions. The faux outrage. When the subject of "blacks and whites" come up around these times expect a heavy dose of the fallacy of inconsistency to be present along with willed ignorance and others.
I find it as a way to get attention and direct more government money their way. Any group which uses "black" in their name is divisive, discriminatory, and racist.
I don't support the BLM MOVEMENT, but I do support the HASHTAG. Regarding Black Entertainment Television. Why are we still on this. You do realize that many blacks don't even like the channel. It's been a pretty crappy channel for years now. We'd rather TVOne.
If we are going to delete race out of everything we are being discriminatory by not removing it from BLM BET or even NAACP.
This conversation is 50 years too old. Because this conversation did not happen after the Civil Rights Act was passed and racist policies by whites continued we have the climate we have today.
Cause and Effect: Whites were racist and did not follow their own laws or laws written by Whites to curtail racist behavior by WHITES which lead to Black Americans finding alternative paths around White Supremacy.
White Racism Created:
NAACP
BET
HBCU's
Black use of N Word
On and On
If you don't like the current situation now then get mad at yourselves or if young your racist parents/family members.
Organizations which use the word "black" in their name are promoting a type of prejudice and discrimination against whites. Imagine the reaction if someone started a group White Lives Matter or a cable network called White Entertainment Television. How about a national organization names the National Association For The Advancement of White People.
in a weird way you're making an admission that many of us already know. Whites ONLY care when black people do anything "black". You wouldn't say this about Asian groups or Latino groups, or any other group. You see a direct relationship between black people and white people when it comes to black empowerment. If black people have something you see it as an attack on white people.
This conversation is 50 years too old. Because this conversation did not happen after the Civil Rights Act was passed and racist policies by whites continued we have the climate we have today.
Cause and Effect: Whites were racist and did not follow their own laws or laws written by Whites to curtail racist behavior by WHITES which lead to Black Americans finding alternative paths around White Supremacy.
White Racism Created:
NAACP
BET
HBCU's
Black use of N Word
On and On
If you don't like the current situation now then get mad at yourselves or if young your racist parents/family members.
A cop-out answer. BLM, BET, etc. are just as racist if you substitute a "W" for the "B".
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