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Chauvin and his fellow officers were in a take-down and arrest situation. They were not responding to an emergency like an auto accident and saving lives.
EMS was called and minutes away. Even the paramedics who arrived did not render immediate attention on account of the insecure situation posed by the crowd. Floyd was put into the ambulance and taken away.
The take down ended when the person being taken down was down. Floyd was down, handcuffed, on his stomach, with 3 officers on him. At one point he became unresponsive, at that point there was no longer resisting in any way possible. To continue to use force was against policy. At na further point there was no pulse. To continue to use force was against policy. What is policy is to render medical aid when one is unresponsive or has no pulse.
You people should know this. I don't remember the date or the link to the article.
Floyd and Chauvin knew each other. I think Floyd was an employee, security guard, bouncer, etc. at some club or business and Chauvin had visited that place more than once.
Knowing Floyd why wasn't the cop less forceful with someone he knew? That could also work the other way. His previous experiences caused him to be "more forceful" which could throw premediated into it. Though from the very little we watched of the trial that topic of premeditated was not brought up.
Surely the jury knows the cop is guilty of something which surely falls under one of the three categories of charges.
Hopefully they convict on all three counts so if M. Waters did taint it an appeal would have three targets and not just one. If guilty on one charge that could be reversed.
Gee that’s surprising. Not.
Your finding them all credible to me shows why you never know with a jury. They all go in with preconceived notions (on both sides) and it is hard to overturn that even when someone feels they are being objective.
You even found the expert witness with the 10 signs of excited delirium credible? I found that to be very superficial.
From what I saw I can’t see how there couldn’t be a reasonable doubt. Maybe that is my preconceptions taking over. Except I feel he probably does deserve some jail time but my vote can’t be based upon what I feel would be right.
I didn’t see it all though.
I couldn't watch all the testimony and did miss the testimony regarding 10 signs of excited delirium.
However, it all comes down to Chauvin being told Floyd had no pulse and Chauvin refused to help Floyd. That is willful disregard for Floyd's life.
The take down ended when the person being taken down was down. Floyd was down, handcuffed, on his stomach, with 3 officers on him. At one point he became unresponsive, at that point there was no longer resisting in any way possible. To continue to use force was against policy. At na further point there was no pulse. To continue to use force was against policy. What is policy is to render medical aid when one is unresponsive or has no pulse.
Again, why such an anal focus on a confrontation involving someone who contributes nothing to society. Derek Chauvin is not the politically powerful face of racism in this country.
have you ever checked someones pulse? A first responder medical certificate is like half a step above first aid. You won't and don't have to believe me but paramedics, nurses, and doctors can't always feel a pulse and they are all trained in finding pulses. I've never in my life heard the term anoxic seizure until this trial. It's not reasonable to assume a cop with bare minimum training would know it and then instantly recognize it while also fighting with a known felon who is still fighting them. There is well beyond a reasonable doubt in this case why Floyd died. It had very little, if anything, to do with Chauvin.
Yes. I was taught to check for a pulse when I had basic CPR training years ago.
If you believe that police have bare minimal training, maybe more of their funds should go to training and not to military style vehicles and weapons.
Isn't this a great example though of someone having his/her/its ''own truth''? This twisted childish mentality that one has their ''own truth'', facts be damned.
"The drugs were protecting them'' line is a great example...that's ''my truth''...it's so bizarre but sadly true and quite scary.
I think in this case it's just gross dishonesty. They took a thing that could have some truth in some circumstances and attempt to use it in a different situation where it doesn't apply.
Basically that poster thinks everyone is dumb enough to believe their obvious BS.
Checking for a pulse is the cornerstone of Basic Life Support BLS/CPR training.
again, have you ever checked for a pulse one someone who isn't healthy? It's not like the crappy cpr videos. Have you ever given cpr? It's not what you see on tv and it rarely works.
Again, why such an anal focus on a confrontation involving someone who contributes nothing to society. Derek Chauvin is not the politically powerful face of racism in this country.
The focus is the police acting a judge, jury, and executioner. That is not their job.
You and I know what cowardice is. Changing one's mind to do the right thing is not doable when facts and supporting evidence are presented to give us the way out of doing the right thing.
Perhaps I don't have a proper understanding of what you're saying here?
The jury is the trier of facts; it's their duty to decide the facts of this case.
The Jury is required to apply the rules of law to arrive at their verdict.
How are you being given "a way out of doing the right thing?" (assuming you are a juror here, which is alright with me)
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