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Old 04-20-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Doesn't matter - Trump is a grifter who won't spend a dime of his own if he can get some little guy to spend it for him. And actually, there is info out there that his net worth is not nearly what he claims it to be.
Sure it does, especially since folks think he’s going to accrue huge legal fees but have no idea what they are. And actually, there’s a lot of info that says he is.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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That’s the core driver in most everyone’s political philosophy
Nope, 100% wrong. Those are the political principles of citizens in absolute monarchies, where fealty to the king is the defining exercise in the political order.

The principles of republican government, which were what the US Constitution was founded on, are entirely antithetical to those principles.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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trump is simply trying to be relevant. He is not & never will be
He’s extremely relevant, and the number and type of responses in this thread alone proves that.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:52 AM
 
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He’s extremely relevant, and the number and type of responses in this thread alone proves that.
No, trump isn’t
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Nope, 100% wrong. Those are the political principles of citizens in absolute monarchies, where fealty to the king is the defining exercise in the political order.

The principles of republican government, which were what the US Constitution was founded on, are entirely antithetical to those principles.
Lol. Only Trump haters could come up with such nonsense.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:55 AM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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He’s extremely relevant, and the number and type of responses in this thread alone proves that.
No that simply proves his supporters spent more time on this type of site than those who support other candidates.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Lol. Only Trump haters could come up with such nonsense.
My position is not simply from disliking Trump, that's a dismissive one line answer that refuses to acknowledge the facts just presented to you.

I really do want you to understand that simply seeing more political power accrue to your leader of choice is not the core of most intelligent free citizens' political philosophy.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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No that simply proves his supporters spent more time on this type of site than those who support other candidates.
Except his non supporters, also spend much time on this site talking about him, too.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:58 AM
 
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Never happen, and 4+ years of hope and wishful thinking isn’t enough to produce evidence for something like that to occur.
I'm not sure I'd agree with the PP that there's less chaos. If anything, there's more chaos, or we're just in a state of normalized chaos.

It's now extensively documented that the mainstream media went into hyperdrive over Donald Trump, which gave the entire Trump administration an aura of never ending chaos - but when you look at the details, Biden's first few months aren't exactly uneventful either - they're simply not reported as chaos to the degree Trump's actions were.

After all, we've had a number of mass shootings recently. We've had very belligerent opening gambits from both China and Russia towards the Biden administration. We, of course, now have a major crisis along the border. Then there's the ongoing culture wars and CRT with the Biden Administration firmly on one side of battles and stoking division rather than consensus.

That doesn't sound like peace and order to me. But more chaos. It's simply how it's being reported by the mainstream media. It's just like how the media reported the riots and protests of 2020 as Trump's fault instead of the Democrats' fault, when it was the Democrats who were rioting and protesting.....

Regarding as to whether Trump will run in 2024 or win that election if he does, it's well worth remembering that if only 90,000 votes out of the 150 million cast changed their votes, Trump would be in the WH and the Republicans control all three branches of the government. That's how close the election really was. If it had not been COVID, Trump likely would have won reelection.
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Old 04-20-2021, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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My position is not simply from disliking Trump, that's a dismissive one line answer that refuses to acknowledge the facts just presented to you.

I really do want you to understand that simply seeing more political power accrue to your leader of choice is not the core of most intelligent free citizens' political philosophy.
Opinions vary, and you obviously have much disdain for him, and think his supporters are all Trump all the time, and that’s certainly not the case...but watching Sleepy Joe certainly gives confidence to the Republicans upcoming elections.
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