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Old 04-22-2021, 05:16 PM
 
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You really think they talk about how trans people feel in board rooms, or the survival of their company financially and how to make more profits. Payroll is expensive. Pixar has to be profitable it wants to survive under Disney which as we know was hit hard lately.
I would much rather this is driven by financial motivation. Just shows how far transgender/non binary people have come in being accepted into mainstream (ie profit making) culture.

Pity not necessary, only acceptance - and if in the form of capitalism, then it becomes just like everything else. Thank goodness.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:25 PM
 
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It will be interesting to see how many parents want to take their children to a movie about a "trans" child. I'd guess a lot fewer than woke people think. There are still plenty of people who believe in male and female, with rare chromosomal exceptions.

That a person could switch to the other gender would have never even crossed anyone's minds for most of my lifetime, and it still seems like craziness to plenty of us.
My generation will be dead and gone in another 20-30 years, and everyone can carry on however they want. I don't see myself ever jumping on the "transgender" bandwagon. Just does not compute as anything other than a mental illness.
It's not a bandwagon. They aren't "trans" or "transgender". No quotes necessary. It's not a mental illness, not defined as one by MD's so no need to add armchair diagnosis.

People still "believe" in male and female but also understand there are some variations on that binary equation.

I don't understand quantum physicists but I know that they exist, they would have once been branded as delusional by those ignorant of what they study.

Lack of understanding does not give you the right to call it mental illness nor dismiss it out of hand, by the very virtue of not understanding you are not qualified to do that. Simply not understanding is enough, and, well, quite understandable.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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It will be interesting to see how many parents want to take their children to a movie about a "trans" child. I'd guess a lot fewer than woke people think. There are still plenty of people who believe in male and female, with rare chromosomal exceptions.

That a person could switch to the other gender would have never even crossed anyone's minds for most of my lifetime, and it still seems like craziness to plenty of us.
My generation will be dead and gone in another 20-30 years, and everyone can carry on however they want. I don't see myself ever jumping on the "transgender" bandwagon. Just does not compute as anything other than a mental illness.

It's funny that you actually believe that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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It's not a bandwagon. They aren't "trans" or "transgender". No quotes necessary. It's not a mental illness, not defined as one by MD's so no need to add armchair diagnosis.

People still "believe" in male and female but also understand there are some variations on that binary equation.

I don't understand quantum physicists but I know that they exist, they would have once been branded as delusional by those ignorant of what they study.

Lack of understanding does not give you the right to call it mental illness nor dismiss it out of hand, by the very virtue of not understanding you are not qualified to do that. Simply not understanding is enough, and, well, quite understandable.

Thank you Finster
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:49 PM
 
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Unfair assumption. Could be to show the essential humanity of a trans person.
Or to continually normalize a mental condition.

If a movie character is anorexic, do they hire an anorexic actor?

If a movie character is a falling down drunk alcoholic, do they hire a falling down drunk alcoholic actor?

If a movie character is a pedophile, does the casting call read: Need Pedophile Actor for Feature Film.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:56 PM
 
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Or to continually normalize a mental condition.

If a movie character is anorexic, do they hire an anorexic actor?

If a movie character is a falling down drunk alcoholic, do they hire a falling down drunk alcoholic actor?

If a movie character is a pedophile, does the casting call read: Need Pedophile Actor for Feature Film.
It could be said that denying the reality of transgender people is a mental condition. And I would be just as qualified to diagnose those with that "condition" as you are diagnosing transgender persons.

That is, not at all.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:57 PM
 
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It could be said that denying the reality of transgender people is a mental condition. And I would be just as qualified to diagnose those with that "condition" as you are diagnosing transgender persons.

That is, not at all.
Where did I deny that trans people exist?

Oh. I didn't.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:11 PM
 
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Where did I deny that trans people exist?

Oh. I didn't.
Oh okay, apparently I wasn't simple enough in my response.

The reality of their existence is not quantified by mental illness.

Or, more simply put still - they're perfectly normal (if not common). The mental health issue is something you made up.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:12 PM
 
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It could be said that denying the reality of transgender people is a mental condition. And I would be just as qualified to diagnose those with that "condition" as you are diagnosing transgender persons.

That is, not at all.
I’m fine with people identifying with whatever gender they choose. Of course in order to do so, one would also have to be okay with people identifying whatever race they choose. You know transracial.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:18 PM
 
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I’m fine with people identifying with whatever gender they choose. Of course in order to do so, one would also have to be okay with people identifying whatever race they choose. You know transracial.
You go ahead. Be fine with whatever you're fine with, no skin off my nose.
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