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Old 04-22-2021, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Maine
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But conservatives will tell you it should be illegal for anybody to become a transsexual under age 18. A large number of them also think it's nonsense, a mental illness and shouldn't be allowed at any age.
So you are saying you think it is ok for a 7, 9, 12, 14 year old child to just decide they aren’t happy with the gender they were born? That they should be allowed to just go ahead and mutilate their bodies and take hormones to completely screw themselves up at that young of an age? Before they even hit puberty and really even have a chance to learn about who and what they really are? Yeah, I am absolutely NOT ok with that line of thinking. Not at all.

And clearly it is a mental health issue. If you think you are any gender other than what you were born, you need to seek professional mental help. It’s not difficult. If you were born with boy parts between your legs and male chromosomes, guess what, you are a male. Born with lady parts between your legs and female chromosomes, you are female. End of list.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:02 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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To me, the cycle of finding representative people to fulfill representative roles reminds me of the 3D film industry. At first it was all about showing off the novel technology, so you've got stuff coming at you out of the screen. It only became (somewhat) normalized when the film makers stopped focusing on the 3D and just filmed the story. I think this whole representative actor focus will follow the same route; eventually the film makers will just concentrate on the story and stop showing off their tolerance badge collection.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:17 PM
 
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So you are saying you think it is ok for a 7, 9, 12, 14 year old child to just decide they aren’t happy with the gender they were born? That they should be allowed to just go ahead and mutilate their bodies and take hormones to completely screw themselves up at that young of an age? Before they even hit puberty and really even have a chance to learn about who and what they really are? Yeah, I am absolutely NOT ok with that line of thinking. Not at all.

And clearly it is a mental health issue. If you think you are any gender other than what you were born, you need to seek professional mental help. It’s not difficult. If you were born with boy parts between your legs and male chromosomes, guess what, you are a male. Born with lady parts between your legs and female chromosomes, you are female. End of list.
So you want kids to have the opportunity to grow up and learn who they really are, as long as whatever that may be is on your very short list.

Gotcha.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Most people are trans age when they get near their 40's, actually. So what's ya point exactly?
LOL! Aren't we all?

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How do you know biology doesn't determine who is or isn't transgender?


The brain defines gender, not the genitalia.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/r...u-should-know/

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Maybe he is thinking that Pixar (owned by Disney) pretty much EXCLUSIVELY makes animated KIDS movies. Maybe he is concerned about Pixar producing an animated movie geared towards young and impressionable children pushing a transvestite character on them. Maybe he is concerned about the potential for that to be severely damaging to said children that would watch said movie. I know I certainly would be and I certainly will NOT be letting my young children see such a movie.
Then do not let them watch.

By the way, transvestite and transgender are not the same.

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So you are saying you think it is ok for a 7, 9, 12, 14 year old child to just decide they aren’t happy with the gender they were born? That they should be allowed to just go ahead and mutilate their bodies and take hormones to completely screw themselves up at that young of an age? Before they even hit puberty and really even have a chance to learn about who and what they really are? Yeah, I am absolutely NOT ok with that line of thinking. Not at all.

And clearly it is a mental health issue. If you think you are any gender other than what you were born, you need to seek professional mental help. It’s not difficult. If you were born with boy parts between your legs and male chromosomes, guess what, you are a male. Born with lady parts between your legs and female chromosomes, you are female. End of list.
A 7, 9, 12, 14 year old child does not have surgery.

Transgender folks almost universally know it when they are young children.

For young children all that is done is to allow them to dress the way they want to, cut their hair the way they want to, and be called by their preferred name and pronouns, including at school. That is it.

At puberty there should be a discussion with professionals in the care of transgender adolescents, including psychological evaluation. Use of medication should be decided by the patient, the family, and the physician. Those medications can be stopped without permanent effects.

What if you are born with male chromosomes but lady parts between your legs? It happens. Those individuals identify as female, by the way.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Japan
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To me, the cycle of finding representative people to fulfill representative roles reminds me of the 3D film industry. At first it was all about showing off the novel technology, so you've got stuff coming at you out of the screen. It only became (somewhat) normalized when the film makers stopped focusing on the 3D and just filmed the story. I think this whole representative actor focus will follow the same route; eventually the film makers will just concentrate on the story and stop showing off their tolerance badge collection.
3D is just technology though, nothing to do with politics. Can you point to anything in the race/ethnicity/gender/sexual orientation category that leftists have pushed in the past but no longer care about? This stuff doesn't go away, it just accumulates.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Maine
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LOL! Aren't we all?





The brain defines gender, not the genitalia.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/r...u-should-know/



Then do not let them watch.

By the way, transvestite and transgender are not the same.



A 7, 9, 12, 14 year old child does not have surgery.

Transgender folks almost universally know it when they are young children.

For young children all that is done is to allow them to dress the way they want to, cut their hair the way they want to, and be called by their preferred name and pronouns, including at school. That is it.

At puberty there should be a discussion with professionals in the care of transgender adolescents, including psychological evaluation. Use of medication should be decided by the patient, the family, and the physician. Those medications can be stopped without permanent effects.

What if you are born with male chromosomes but lady parts between your legs? It happens. Those individuals identify as female, by the way.
Don’t worry, my kids will not watch a cartoon featuring a tranny. And whatever. Same difference in my book. They are all nothing more than cross dressers. Male to female is just a guy with fake boobs. Female to male is a woman who tapes her chest down and wears her hair short.

And again, a young child is a damn child. We should not, as a society, be shoving crazy psychological garbage like this on our kids. Same with the race crap. Let them be kids for a while before we force them into the crazy woke Pc bull****. They absolutely do not “know it” as kids. They are friggin kids pure and simple.

And again, only 2 genders in the human race. The occasional oddity or freak of nature does not count.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Maine
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So you want kids to have the opportunity to grow up and learn who they really are, as long as whatever that may be is on your very short list.

Gotcha.
Not MY short list. THE short list. We have exactly 2 genders as a human race. No more. No less. Male and female. The occasional mutated oddity does not count as they are the rare exception, not the rule. Like an albino animal in the wild. The exception, not the rule.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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You are deeply dishonest.

Most conservatives I know treat everyone with respect, including those suffering from mental illness. However, that mental illness does not mean that the sufferer gets to dictate a banning of facts for fear of offending them.

Any adult should be able to disfigure their body without interference from government.
Seriously, Aussiehoff, you're so all out WRONG, though. Oklahoma Republican state legislators are very, very, honest in trying to pass a law to make it illegal for male transsexual students to compete in girl sports.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Seriously, Aussiehoff, you're so all out WRONG, though. Oklahoma Republican state legislators are very, very, honest in trying to pass a law to make it illegal for male transsexual students to compete in girl sports.
You don’t think that maybe has more to do with the severe unfair advantage said boys in dresses would have over the girls? Cause that makes total sense to me. Never mind the whole issue with boys in dresses sharing bathroom and shower facilities with teenage girls. Yeah, I wouldn’t want a boy in a dress sharing a bathroom and a shower with my daughter either.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:53 PM
 
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Not MY short list. THE short list. We have exactly 2 genders as a human race. No more. No less. Male and female. The occasional mutated oddity does not count as they are the rare exception, not the rule. Like an albino animal in the wild. The exception, not the rule.
Meh, many transgender people would disagree with you. No loss.

There are many cultures where transgender people have been prominent and even celebrated since ancient times. It’s not new.

Who do you think you are to tell people they are not valid?

Thankfully, absolutely nobody.
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